Doug Richard of Dragons Den had sex with 13 and 15yo from sugar daddy site

[a_test_person]

What a plonker, I think anyone on this forum would have been able to spot an underage girl,  especially 13 and know to run. Really not buying his story.

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After being cautioned, he told the officer: “As you can see I am in a lot of trouble.”

He then asked the officer: “Can I ask you a hypothetical question? What if I thought she was over 16 but she was in fact under 16?”

[jcdmj12]

Yep, idiot.  One reason I'd be very cautious about seeing younger 18/19 girls, certainly without some solid ID.

[Bluefin]

 
I wonder how many girls are under 18 on AW?

[two20]

I see two of his charges relate to underage sexual activity, but the third is "paying for sexual services". I didn't think that was a crime or how come adultwork exists.

[Bluefin]

I see two of his charges relate to underage sexual activity, but the third is "paying for sexual services". I didn't think that was a crime or how come adultwork exists.

The article states "paying for the sexual services of a child"

[anyfucker]

The article states "paying for the sexual services of a child"

AFAIK, the age of consent for paid sex is 18, so if you pay anyone under 18 it is illegal but not illegal for the girl i.e. she has not broken any laws.
It is similar if you are in a position of trust, e.g. teacher, you can't shag your hot student.

[Bluefin]

AFAIK, the age of consent for paid sex is 18, so if you pay anyone under 18 it is illegal but not illegal for the girl i.e. she has not broken any laws.
It is similar if you are in a position of trust, e.g. teacher, you can't shag your hot student.

Yep under 18 it's illegal to pay for sex but he's well fucked as she was only 13!

Can't believe he could be so stupid having also appeared on tv and being a known face

[HappyandLucky]

After they have thrown the book at him, they should follow up with the kitchen sink and bath. What a sicko. 

[Yeboahsleftfoot]

My lad is 14 and there is not one girl in his year off 100 plus between 14 and 15 that any of us would have even a slight inkling was over 16 and legal age, no chance in hell, this fella is a fucking disgrace and will hopefully be locked up for a very long time.

[jcdmj12]

My lad is 14 and there is not one girl in his year off 100 plus between 14 and 15 that any of us would have even a slight inkling was over 16 and legal age, no chance in hell, this fella is a fucking disgrace and will hopefully be locked up for a very long time.

15 year olds can pass for 18 - used to do it all the time to get into clubs before ID checks were brought in.  Of course, once you actually start talking to them the difference should be obvious, so it suggests he really wasn't that fussed.

As for a 13 year old though?   Yep blatant hebephilia.

Anyway, with all his money, he should have gone to Saudi Arabia and married a few 13 year-olds. They're fine with that over there. 

[vw]

Doesn't the BBC attract more than its share of deviants !

[Yeboahsleftfoot]

Always suspected Deborah Meaden was a drag queen....

[a_test_person]

Can't believe he could be so stupid having also appeared on tv and being a known face

And used easily traced payment techniques. He either didn't live in the real world or has a serious blinding obsession with way too young girls. Disgraceful either way.

[bbois77]

Isn't it just plain rape, a child can't give consent, nor be held responsible for saying yes, up to the adult to verify, ignorance of age/law no excuse!

Basically its child rape.

[Bluefin]

Isn't it just plain rape, a child can't give consent, nor be held responsible for saying yes, up to the adult to verify, ignorance of age/law no excuse!

Basically its child rape.

You're right at that age it is classed as child rape.
Don't think we'll be seeing him on the TV for a while!

[two20]

Mind you if she's 13 now she'd have been about 4 when he was on Dragons Den, so may not have realised who he was.

[HappyandLucky]

Don't think we'll be seeing him on the TV for a while!

I hope we do on the news when the sick fuck gets banged up for a long sentence.

[Randy Mcknob]

I wonder how many girls are under 18 on AW?

There's a few that remain 18 for a couple of years.

[Jamboney]

There's a few that remain 18 for a couple of years.

And are more likely to be 24

[Andre 3000]

Yuck.

And he had to have known they were that young. I guess he wanted to fulfill some twisted sexual bucket list.

[cueball]

I'd bet this is the tip of the ice berg for this dirty fucker.

Throw the cunt in clink

[tazz]

He's like another Saville who paid a 15 and 13 year old for sex in Soho from what i once read. The man is super rich and famous hardly needs a dating site to pick up hot girls in their late teens or 20s so clearly a paedophile.

[Dicky]

Did anyone find that it was a bit disturbing how they detailed the lead up to him having sex with a 13 year old: lying, spanking, taking off clothes....this newspaper is clearly taking the piss by lascivicously reporting details of how rape was committed

[HappyandLucky]

Did anyone find that it was a bit disturbing how they detailed the lead up to him having sex with a 13 year old: lying, spanking, taking off clothes....this newspaper is clearly taking the piss by lascivicously reporting details of how rape was committed

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[Andre 3000]

Did anyone find that it was a bit disturbing how they detailed the lead up to him having sex with a 13 year old: lying, spanking, taking off clothes....this newspaper is clearly taking the piss by lascivicously reporting details of how rape was committed

I'm surprised at the Telegraph, even the Daily Mail reined in their more salacious writing style for this story.

I will say that with all this publicity, I would not be surprised if Seekingarrangements suffers a Ashley Madison style hack, they've probably seen a surge of new members signing up.

[webpunter]

My lad is 14 and there is not one girl in his year off 100 plus between 14 and 15 that any of us would have even a slight inkling was over 16 and legal age, no chance in hell, this fella is a fucking disgrace and will hopefully be locked up for a very long time.

+1  whilst the girls themselves aren't exactly going to be cherubs, he's a complete cunt.  Hope he gets the shit kicked out of him when banged up or on the street.  Didn't realize - bollocks.  Wondering whether over 16 ??  What kind of an excuse does he think that is.  It is so bad on all levels.  IMO some punter paying a young looking 21 year old to dress up as a school girl etc is bad enough.  Least there is some degree of choice that the girl is exercising in selling herself this way.  In this instance i hope some ambulance chasing lawyer gets on the case & sues the cunt.  Might discourage others from even thinking about doing anything remotely similar.  Paying by PayPal - what a stupid arrogant twat.  He just thinks he can get some cheap [£60 each incl travel] underage sex.  CUNT

[jcdmj12]

+1  whilst the girls themselves aren't exactly going to be cherubs, he's a complete cunt.  Hope he gets the shit kicked out of him when banged up or on the street.  Didn't realize - bollocks.  Wondering whether over 16 ??  What kind of an excuse does he think that is.  It is so bad on all levels.  IMO some punter paying a young looking 21 year old to dress up as a school girl etc is bad enough.  Least there is some degree of choice that the girl is exercising in selling herself this way.  In this instance i hope some ambulance chasing lawyer gets on the case & sues the cunt.  Might discourage others from even thinking about doing anything remotely similar.  Paying by PayPal - what a stupid arrogant twat.  He just thinks he can get some cheap [£60 each incl travel] underage sex.  CUNT

Yep, I hope they throw the fucking book at him and make an example of the cunt. The last thing we need is SA getting overrun with kiddy fiddlers and shut down. 

[myothernameis]

Yuck.

And he had to have known they were that young. I guess he wanted to fulfill some twisted sexual bucket list.

where there one, there might be others; so wonder if he has any other pedo friend links

[Bluefin]

It seems hard to believe that a site as popular as SA didn't have the most basic of checks to verify the age of the profiles.
They say no publicity is bad publicity but after this I think they will have to bring in age verification or be closed down.

[lostandfound]

The Telegraph appears to be reporting the words of the prosecution verbatim. For as long as I can remember it has been the practice of the Telegraph to report cases like this.

[jcdmj12]

Something very disturbing about the case -  wtf was a 13 year old doing being into stuff like that?   

Sounds more like he (or someone else) had been grooming her.  Very fucked up, I really hope the cunt does serious time.

[jcdmj12]

It seems hard to believe that a site as popular as SA didn't have the most basic of checks to verify the age of the profiles.
They say no publicity is bad publicity but after this I think they will have to bring in age verification or be closed down.

They really need to.  The last thing the site (and legitimate users) need is it being shut down due to moral panics.

[CardiffCentral]

Something very disturbing about the case -  wtf was a 13 year old doing being into stuff like that?   

Sounds more like he (or someone else) had been grooming her.  Very fucked up, I really hope the cunt does serious time.

That's what really irks me, she wanted to get spanked?  At 13!?!?  And the 15 year sold wasn't much better in that regard.  Her attitude being that boys her age take everything so seriously, really!?!?  Clearly these two have done far too much in life and are still undoubtedly children. 

My question is if they were both 16, or say one was 16 and the other 17, and Dougie didn't hand over any cash or make any suggestion of monetary payment and just took them out for a meal before heading back to his room, where would he legally stand then?

[daveev]

The trouble is kids don't have a child hood any more, all the porn they see on there phones, my mates daughter was asked to send pics at 13 to boys in there class, it's going on with younger ones cos they all have phones at 8 these days, it's the parents that need to let them grow up slowly, everything seems so rushed these days.
I even saw a girl on face book buy a 3 year old a Iphone, stupid idiot she is.

[lechuck]

According to BBC news he's been cleared!

[MrPunter]

Indeed he has:

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[CoolTiger]

According to BBC news he's been cleared!

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[daveev]

It's a odd one but not a surprise, money can buy you a lot these days. I thought offering a 16 year old would be an offence.

[Markus]

That's disgusting. How the hell can he get away with it?

I wouldn't even go anywhere near an 18 year old never mind someone claiming to be 16. The only thing I would find really quite odd is that this girl registered on SA without being the proper age and was allowed to continue on it.

[Grumbleguts]

OK he has been cleared, but he wont be able to fart passing any school now

[two20]

You wouldn't want to be in the public eye, how the hell do you nip in to Costa for a coffee and look at anyone?

[bilbo]

How the fuck did he get away with it,I know money talks but it looked cut a dried to me

[Bluefin]

He admitted the sexual activity with a 13 yr old child yet he is cleared because he thought she was older!! I'd like to see any of us get away with that!
Fucking unbelievable but I think his money and his connections in government have got him off, it would have very embarrassing for David Cameron's former advisor to be a convicted paedophile!

[Odd Job]

Dirty nonce. Yes a 16 year old can look older, but no amount of make up is going to make a 13 year old look 18.

[Mr Garmin]

He admitted the sexual activity with a 13 yr old child yet he is cleared because he thought she was older!! I'd like to see any of us get away with that!
Fucking unbelievable but I think his money and his connections in government have got him off, it would have very embarrassing for David Cameron's former advisor to be a convicted paedophile!

Are you suggesting that the jury was nobbled?

[FootieMadJonny]

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[Bluefin]

Are you suggesting that the jury was nobbled?

I'm struggling to see how he didn't get convicted. The fact that he paid her for sex means she has to be over 18 to make it legal!

Have you ever heard of a case before where a man fucked a 13 yr old and got away with the defence that he "reasonably thought" she was 16 never mind 18!

Could it be the judge "steered" the  jury in that direction?

This surely gives a green light to fuck any under age girl that you meet in a nightclub as your defence Could be you reasonably  thought she was over the age of consent by being in the place!

[myothernameis]

OK he has been cleared, but he wont be able to fart passing any school now

Now he has been cleared, but is it the end of the story, surely the police could apply for a Sex Risk Order, and apply the full term of 2 years, and he will have no say in this, tough if the police apply for this order

[spellbackwards]

I'm really scratching my head over this one... seems he got off because "It is a defence if the perpetrator reasonably believed that the child was 16 or over (but only if the child was in fact 13 or over)" and they believed his " not a payment but a gift" so avoided charge of buying sex from an under 18 year old . Being rich gets you very good lawyers!

[Donnie69]

I think having sex with any 13 year old is a crime.  It's no excuse in my book that she looked older.

I think he got off because of all the Muslims having sex and marrying underage girls!  The Muslims all say my religion allows it, and under Sharia it's not a crime.