Seeking arrangement has been a disaster so far

[JV547845]

That's a really interesting story mate - thanks for sharing.  What sort of money changed hands if you don't mind me asking? 

I'm sorry it didn't end well.  But it sounds like you had some great times and found a perosnal connection on some level, so good for you.  But after you've sought and found an arrangement via SA, how is that arrangement supposed to end?  At least it sounded like it ended amicably?  Sounds like she was using a punting phone herself though.

[Steve2]

How you perform in any business depends what market your in. You wouldn't get many people in a Ferrari garage looking to buy an old banger ford escort now would you    (pun intended)

or let me put it another way, if you stuck and old worn out Ford Escort in a Ferrari dealership, Id expect very little interest in it 

 

[badsin]

Well I rejoined yesterday morning. I have four new phone numbers, and plans to pork them all, and others currently being 'chatted up' on the site.
I quite enjoy it, but out of 12 months if the year, pay around 3 or 4 monthly subscriptions. That tends to set me up with enough numbers etc to work through. I'm glad so many of you seem to dislike the site for whatever reasons, as it leaves more horny birds for me haha

[fishermen]

That's a really interesting story mate - thanks for sharing.  What sort of money changed hands if you don't mind me asking? 

I'm sorry it didn't end well.  But it sounds like you had some great times and found a perosnal connection on some level, so good for you.  But after you've sought and found an arrangement via SA, how is that arrangement supposed to end?  At least it sounded like it ended amicably?  Sounds like she was using a punting phone herself though.

- "What sort of money changed hands if you don't mind me asking?"

I think she would not like it if I revealed this. She was very private and I want to respect this, even if kept anonymous.  Sorry, mate!!!! I hope you understand. But you probably know as well as I what the SA currency exchange rate is....

 "how is that arrangement supposed to end?  At least it sounded like it ended amicably?"

Good question, how is an arrangement to end, this question made me increasingly worry. Having an arrangement with her was emotionally difficult and a real relationship defo not on the cards. A totally hopeless prospect. In the end I "messed it up". So not very happy with this.
She did not use a punting phone. She did not reveal much but what she told me was true. What I like most about her is that she was absolutely respectful, treating others with dignity, not pushy, not in the slightest sense manipulative. Very decent Lady.

[whiskyfan]

I finally got premium membership. It's been 2 weeks. I have had convos with nothing but time wasters. I should have had one bang by now.

Many don't reply.

Can I please get some help.

One thing that's so retarded is that we are essentially chatting up pro minded girls

Not only do we have to pay them. We actually have to chat them up.

I can't even find women that don't want to be paid!

I am at a loss

Sounds like you joined expecting free sex. From my limited understanding, that's not how SA works.

[datwabbit]

Sounds like you joined expecting free sex. From my limited understanding, that's not how SA works.

Tinder?

[TPreston]

Sounds like you joined expecting free sex. From my limited understanding, that's not how SA works.

Its not beyond the realms of possibilities but requires luck, time and effort. and even then its not free as you're likely stumping up for travel, hotel, drinks and dinner with no guarantees.

If you've lots of spare time and don't mind having a fair bit of it wasted then you can make SA work. Otherwise use AW 

[whiskyfan]

Tinder?

Grindr.

[Paul1738]

- "What sort of money changed hands if you don't mind me asking?"

I think she would not like it if I revealed this. She was very private and I want to respect this, even if kept anonymous.  Sorry, mate!!!! I hope you understand. But you probably know as well as I what the SA currency exchange rate is....

 "how is that arrangement supposed to end?  At least it sounded like it ended amicably?"

Good question, how is an arrangement to end, this question made me increasingly worry. Having an arrangement with her was emotionally difficult and a real relationship defo not on the cards. A totally hopeless prospect. In the end I "messed it up". So not very happy with this.
She did not use a punting phone. She did not reveal much but what she told me was true. What I like most about her is that she was absolutely respectful, treating others with dignity, not pushy, not in the slightest sense manipulative. Very decent Lady.

Have a fucking word with yourself! Hardly gonna do anything saying how much you gave her.

[monstar]

- "What sort of money changed hands if you don't mind me asking?"

I think she would not like it if I revealed this. She was very private and I want to respect this, even if kept anonymous.  Sorry, mate!!!! I hope you understand. But you probably know as well as I what the SA currency exchange rate is....

 "how is that arrangement supposed to end?  At least it sounded like it ended amicably?"

Good question, how is an arrangement to end, this question made me increasingly worry. Having an arrangement with her was emotionally difficult and a real relationship defo not on the cards. A totally hopeless prospect. In the end I "messed it up". So not very happy with this.
She did not use a punting phone. She did not reveal much but what she told me was true. What I like most about her is that she was absolutely respectful, treating others with dignity, not pushy, not in the slightest sense manipulative. Very decent Lady.

  she will be glad her knight in white armour is protecting her dignity as he posts about her on a punting forum!  or maybe it's all a fantasy? 

Get a grip

[fishermen]

she will be glad her knight in white armour is protecting her dignity as he posts about her on a punting forum!  or maybe it's all a fantasy? 

Get a grip

why so agressive, what's wrong with you?

[NigelF]

why so agressive, what's wrong with you?

You think that post on an internet forum is somehow aggressive 

[fishermen]

You think that post on an internet forum is somehow aggressive 

why so sarcastic? I just post what I think and what works for me.

[Samuel99]

I finally got premium membership. It's been 2 weeks. I have had convos with nothing but time wasters. I should have had one bang by now.

Many don't reply.

Can I please get some help.

One thing that's so retarded is that we are essentially chatting up pro minded girls

Not only do we have to pay them. We actually have to chat them up.

I can't even find women that don't want to be paid!

I am at a loss

I have never tried SA. Always thought it to be a massive money making scam full of company sponsored fake profiles. But reading through some of the posts make me wonder if I should try it. Seems to be a hit and miss though?

[OldAdmin]

I have never tried SA. Always thought it to be a massive money making scam full of company sponsored fake profiles. But reading through some of the posts make me wonder if I should try it. Seems to be a hit and miss though?

Fuck off and die and stop coming back with new accounts

[DeanoDeano]

 

[Desimonic]

Nice one Admin 

[Colston36]

I finally got premium membership. It's been 2 weeks. I have had convos with nothing but time wasters. I should have had one bang by now.

Many don't reply.

Can I please get some help.

One thing that's so retarded is that we are essentially chatting up pro minded girls

Not only do we have to pay them. We actually have to chat them up.

I can't even find women that don't want to be paid!

I am at a loss

I must say I agree.

It takes an immense amount of time filtering the women. though why you don't expect to pay escapes me.

I ended up with about 120 enquiries. Three were any good. One I still see, though not for sex; she became a good friend. One was very keen, but I got bored quickly. One I just told to forget it the other day after months of mounting frustration

Yes, she was great in bed. Yes, I liked her. Yes, she was fun to be with.  But she wanted far more money than justified, and was crazy. I think it worked out a £300 a time. For £100 less than that I can and do get two girls and a hell of a kinky hour.

[hardtoplease]

Fuck off and die and stop coming back with new accounts

Nearly pished myself when I read that retort admin 

[nightrider.1234]

SA has not been a disaster for me, it been a pain in the arse. Everyday I’m getting so many messages from the girls on SA, and some of them are annoying, and desperate.

Often they keep messaging me for higher ppms, and they wanna meet in short notice and they wanna be treated as princess.... Whatever that means.

Also one messaged me today and said wanna meet today and she wanted £250 off me, and I said why what you wanna do and she says go out for dinner and drinks and in my mind I was thinking what am I charity case.

Also I’m getting messages from girls who are based abroad and I’m thinking wouldn’t it be convenient if they just message a bloke that’s local to them.

Also a couple of weeks some desperate bitch, was being abusive towards me cos,  I didn’t give her an exact date to meet up. 

But still I’m not gonna give up, I’ve still got my heart set on SA so hopefully one day I’ll meet somebody who won’t be like the bitches from the above who I mentioned 

[chinafan]

Punting is so much easier. Book, turn up, pay, fuck, leave. No idea why guys find SA so fascinating.

+1

[Slutclaire]

+1

It is the thrill of dating, the very fact that the outcome is not a foregone conclusion. Also that you may see girls that are not typical escorts. The quality of sex is much higher.
Punting is easier, less time consuming but also more boring and sometimes even depressing.

[chinafan]

It is the thrill of dating, the very fact that the outcome is not a foregone conclusion. Also that you may see girls that are not typical escorts. The quality of sex is much higher.
Punting is easier, less time consuming but also more boring and sometimes even depressing.

I understand that, but the same amount of effort is apparently required on most bonafide dating sites and you don't have to pay for your hole when you get it. From what I've read about SA on here it's all about flattering women, chatting them up and then PAYING them for sex. Which, IMO, is nuts.

[daviemac]

It is the thrill of dating, the very fact that the outcome is not a foregone conclusion. Also that you may see girls that are not typical escorts. The quality of sex is much higher.
Punting is easier, less time consuming but also more boring and sometimes even depressing.

That may be the case for punters booking you, but the one's I book are far from boring and the sex is top quality as well. Anyway thanks for letting us know you provide a boring and poor standard of service.   

[threechilliman]

I understand that, but the same amount of effort is apparently required on most bonafide dating sites and you don't have to pay for your hole when you get it. From what I've read about SA on here it's all about flattering women, chatting them up and then PAYING them for sex. Which, IMO, is nuts.

I think some guys like the thrill of conquering a girl even though they're still using cash as leverage. Deluding themselves that they still have the ability to 'pull' so to speak.

[pamplona]

I understand that, but the same amount of effort is apparently required on most bonafide dating sites and you don't have to pay for your hole when you get it. From what I've read about SA on here it's all about flattering women, chatting them up and then PAYING them for sex. Which, IMO, is nuts.

I've found sa to be somewhere between the two. Yes, some chatting up is required but nowhere near as much as on dating sites. The quality of sex for me on the whole is far better, less orchestrated and more natural. So yes, it is time consuming, requires a bit more effort but when it works it is amazing.

[hungrypunt]

I think some guys like the thrill of conquering a girl even though they're still using cash as leverage. Deluding themselves that they still have the ability to 'pull' so to speak.

Cash is the obvious initial leverage, girls who sign on to SA do it for cash simple, so that hurdle is out the way when you first start talking. Then there are the blurred lines of somewhat dating and chasing. In that regard punting is easier if you just want to fuck, especially if your cheating on the wife/girlfriend, or you like to have sex with different girls each time (even though nowadays this is quite easy on SA more than it used to be) then SA is not as suitable for you long term.

It can defo turn out to be a part time job, but for instance, Ive got some decent "friends" from it now that I have seen many times and still do for all sorts of reasons, and in all sorts of places. Ive also had nutters trying to bash my car in or brothers gangs turn up in the same way pimps/naughty boys turn up at some prossies if due dilligence isnt done correctly.

Im quite happy with the experience Ive had , good sex, dinners, holidays, events, hanging out (not all paid for I might add) and I and still punt time to time, but then again, Im single and no ties so it works for me as it isnt JUST a fuck for me, but I can see for many that it is and that suits them.

One size doesnt fit all.

[Slutclaire]

I think some guys like the thrill of conquering a girl even though they're still using cash as leverage. Deluding themselves that they still have the ability to 'pull' so to speak.

In my experience money isn’t the only factor that counts. Of course it is important but the girls I have seen quite choosy. Hence the frustration of many guy when they realise that some hot girls are simply not going after them despite the money. I don’t exclude myself here. I had both success and rejection on SA.

[hungrypunt]

In my experience money isn’t the only factor that counts. Of course it is important but the girls I have seen quite choosy. Hence the frustration of many guy when they realise that some hot girls are simply not going after them despite the money. I don’t exclude myself here. I had both success and rejection on SA.

Agreed, its diff than most Wgs, whereas your "mostly" expected to go through with the meet. SA, tends to be a quick drink first and if happy, HAPPY DAYS, if not adios.
Ive sacked a few myself ,cokehead, fake pics, cost me a drink and a chat.

Gotta be honest though I did tend to have mostly med to long term. Sure the odd one off where it didnt quite click, but in general Im as close as you get to the supposed stereotype, but without the jet 

And to add, whereas a punt you both get seconds to minutes to decide whos who as shes stood behind the open door waiting to count the cash, my SA experience is a lot longer sussing each other out all evening or multiple dates (rare), do we get on, does trust and excitement build etc etc THEN she count the cash AFTER the meetings, until trust then the lines get blurred.

[LLPunting]

To OP,
Point in favour of you quitting SA for better pastures:

Place Ad on CL for girl wanting massage and arrangement.
Sift through handful of replies that are easily sorted shite from good.
Meet pretty 20-something black girl, thick body but good curves, pierced nips, solid thighs, juicy pussy that is dripping after 20 mins of sensual massage.
2 hrs teasing the fuck out of her pussy with your cock and fingers and she squirts a mug full 4 times (more forceful and copious than petite mia) during the sesh before her coming on your dick drives you over the edge and you empty a huge load all over her pussy.
Damage? £60

Enjoy life in CL-land.   

[tynetunnel]

I had mixed experiences on SA. A member for two months I have been intimate with two girls, both in their twenties. One didn’t work out but was a great shag. The other has become a reg, we meet weekly. Less than half my age, an absolute whore in bed, the sweetest girl next door out of bed.

I don’t ppm, but help out on an ad hoc basis with various things financially. Doing some basic back-of-the-fag-packet maths, based on meets and outgoings, I’d say my gifts to her are less than £40 per meet on average, and we meet for 3-4 hours, so roughly £10-12 an hour.

To be fair, I pay far more than that to the window cleaner, and there’s no way I want his squeegee or leather anywhere near me! My SA girl is in it mainly for the sex, has a LT BF but he doesn’t seem to enjoy sex. His loss is my gain! She has the wettest fanny I’ve ever had the pleasure of.

On which basis, I heartily recommend SA. Just do the homework and put in plenty of hours, it paid off for me!

[BingoHJ]

I would agree with slot of what has been posted here - it is more effort, highly addictive but there some genuine nuggets out there with all the cross and scammers. I eventually signed up to a 1 week membership for £20 and struck gold - real student who was reasonably priced and just right for me. However before I got there, I was scanned by at least one faker and struck up offline conversations with girls who then suddenly disappeared!

Never ever give money upfront - even for travelling costs. Pay them when you actually meet them - ignore claims about getting let down/stood up in the past or wanting to protect their privacy (declined offer of an Uber).

It is a different type of investment but for me sometimes it is the chase or research that leads to the point that I enjoy.

[babatamagotchi]

IMO can't compare SA to AW. AW is Amazon - a guaranteed delivery based on reviews - although your personal expectations aren't always met. To me SA is a premium Tinder dating service - you are not paying for sex like AW - what you are paying for is "qualified" introductions to "civvies" who may consider "payment" if there is chemistry after the first "dating" step. For me, I am happy to pay for those introductions as it has led to some great dinner dates in the first few months with some beautiful young women who haven't shagged 100+ guys. You get the "dating" experience, better quality conversation and intelligence as there seem to be a lot of students on there. Just avoid anyone asking for Pay Per Meet (PPM) - that's transactional = escorting which is not what SA is meant to be (their admin states they try to ban suspect escort profiles). In short, what SA does is allow you to develop more exclusive relationships with civvie girls who do not want to escort full time, but don't mind sex with someone they have chemistry with for some kind of payment. But as many people have stated, it takes time to cultivate a relationship, but don't confuse that with the App itself, which is just making introductions. For me where SA really narrowed down and saved time was on a recent trip abroad and where I lined up all my dinner dates pretty much a month before I arrived and got chatting online first. Of course, still use escorting sites for PPM sex and use SA for dating. But if you are comparing SA to AW, then you are using the wrong frame of reference, and will be disappointed.

[Shearer1955]

IMO can't compare SA to AW. AW is Amazon - a guaranteed delivery based on reviews - although your personal expectations aren't always met. To me SA is a premium Tinder dating service - you are not paying for sex like AW - what you are paying for is "qualified" introductions to "civvies" who may consider "payment" if there is chemistry after the first "dating" step. For me, I am happy to pay for those introductions as it has led to some great dinner dates in the first few months with some beautiful young women who haven't shagged 100+ guys. You get the "dating" experience, better quality conversation and intelligence as there seem to be a lot of students on there. Just avoid anyone asking for Pay Per Meet (PPM) - that's transactional = escorting which is not what SA is meant to be (their admin states they try to ban suspect escort profiles). In short, what SA does is allow you to develop more exclusive relationships with civvie girls who do not want to escort full time, but don't mind sex with someone they have chemistry with for some kind of payment. But as many people have stated, it takes time to cultivate a relationship, but don't confuse that with the App itself, which is just making introductions. For me where SA really narrowed down and saved time was on a recent trip abroad and where I lined up all my dinner dates pretty much a month before I arrived and got chatting online first. Of course, still use escorting sites for PPM sex and use SA for dating. But if you are comparing SA to AW, then you are using the wrong frame of reference, and will be disappointed.

I think the misconception is on your part; many prossies use Seeking Arrangements for intoductions with the reality that paid sex will be the ultimate goal; similarly students  housewives etc use it as an alternate option to A/w with the anticipated prospect of financial reward with the added bonus of a little fun (all paid for). From what I read you are attempting to legitimise SA as something better than what it is; punting is a surreal world anyway but Seeking Arrangements is implicitly the same as A/w but a different version of touting for business - on A/w the girls publicise themselves but it might be argued that the reverse applies on SA with the guys having more input - but the end result is  still a payment for services

[DrGFreeman]

I think the misconception is on your part; many prossies use Seeking Arrangements for intoductions with the reality that paid sex will be the ultimate goal; similarly students  housewives etc use it as an alternate option to A/w with the anticipated prospect of financial reward with the added bonus of a little fun (all paid for). From what I read you are attempting to legitimise SA as something better than what it is; punting is a surreal world anyway but Seeking Arrangements is implicitly the same as A/w but a different version of touting for business - on A/w the girls publicise themselves but it might be argued that the reverse applies on SA with the guys having more input - but the end result is  still a payment for services

presumably you have been a paid member on SA to come up with this conclusion ?
based on my experience there is little similarity between SA an AW
SA is a introduction to girls who may be open to sex if they find you attractive and they feel comfortable with you
it can be incredibly frustrating but also wonderful when it works

[scoobyboy72]

For those of you that think SA doesn’t work - go on AW. That is all.

[Steve2]

IMO can't compare SA to AW. AW is Amazon - a guaranteed delivery based on reviews - although your personal expectations aren't always met. To me SA is a premium Tinder dating service - you are not paying for sex like AW - what you are paying for is "qualified" introductions to "civvies" who may consider "payment" if there is chemistry after the first "dating" step. For me, I am happy to pay for those introductions as it has led to some great dinner dates in the first few months with some beautiful young women who haven't shagged 100+ guys. You get the "dating" experience, better quality conversation and intelligence as there seem to be a lot of students on there. Just avoid anyone asking for Pay Per Meet (PPM) - that's transactional = escorting which is not what SA is meant to be (their admin states they try to ban suspect escort profiles). In short, what SA does is allow you to develop more exclusive relationships with civvie girls who do not want to escort full time, but don't mind sex with someone they have chemistry with for some kind of payment. But as many people have stated, it takes time to cultivate a relationship, but don't confuse that with the App itself, which is just making introductions. For me where SA really narrowed down and saved time was on a recent trip abroad and where I lined up all my dinner dates pretty much a month before I arrived and got chatting online first. Of course, still use escorting sites for PPM sex and use SA for dating. But if you are comparing SA to AW, then you are using the wrong frame of reference, and will be disappointed.

Welcome to the site Brandon Wade 

[hungrypunt]

but the end result is  still a payment for services

Agreed for some girls, but everyone here keeps making complete assessments as if its all the same. SThere are many freebies had on SA and relationships developed, just as much as prossies/prossies in training and part time "punters"

THATS the difference, variation of "just a fuck" or "dating regularly" I do both many times with "arrangement fee" and still do

[pamplona]

Welcome to the site Brandon Wade 

You beat me to it Steve!

[Rockhead]

I did SA for a month, and while I found it quite addictive and time-consuming, the results weren't sufficient to make me take out a second month's membership.

The chase was quite fun, but far too many girls on there are expecting regular pay-per-month arrangements or simply want you to buy them designer handbags, or whatever.

I only met three people, and shagged only one of those - and that shag was absolutely bloody awful; so bad it actually put me off sex for a while! I still shudder at the thought of it, ha! It's a bit of a lottery - others report far more positive experiences - and I wouldn't rule out doing it again at some point.

[G.Raff]

Welcome to the site Brandon Wade 

 
Made me chuckle.

[jackdaw]

I did SA for a month, and while I found it quite addictive and time-consuming, the results weren't sufficient to make me take out a second month's membership.

The chase was quite fun, but far too many girls on there are expecting regular pay-per-month arrangements or simply want you to buy them designer handbags, or whatever.

I only met three people, and shagged only one of those - and that shag was absolutely bloody awful; so bad it actually put me off sex for a while! I still shudder at the thought of it, ha! It's a bit of a lottery - others report far more positive experiences - and I wouldn't rule out doing it again at some point.

I go through busy/ unbusy times in my life...certainly in last 3 or 4 years.

In the unbusy times...having got a wee bit bored I've signed up to SA, as a way of "passing time". One thing I've found on every one of the four or five times I've given it a go is that it's massively time consuming. Maybe I have a slightly jaundiced view of that because I live "out in the sticks" and going to any of the nearest cities/ big towns takes a wedge of time. And making those journeys to find prospective "babe" just doesn't appear...is fairly common. They make the standard WG look ultra-reliable...something I would have thought impossible.

You can get good results...I have done done from time to time. But certainly my experience on latest membership (done about three weeks in latest time now, so about a week of premium membership to go)  has been pretty dire. I also think that SA itself is running more fake profiles than they used to, and are doing that less subtly.

Overall, once premium membership runs out am going to let it lapse, probably join again about a month or two months before Christmas, to see if things have improved. But how a busy guy could contemplate joining.... that baffles me.

[datwabbit]

There's a regional pool. Once you've chatted to some you'll either get somewhere or not. Going back to her after a week won't change their answer.

You cannot make them read your message so your paid subscription is ticking down while theirs is free so can take as long as they like.

Like anything, you're either a natural at the start or learn over time or never get it right.

So can you afford to spend £70 and introduction meeting costs and come away with nothing? That's the worst case. More likely though, your worst case is £70 for nothing.

[Tomcurtis]

Sa can be amazing.

I have been on there for three or more years.

It takes effort and cash but you get to meet stunning students or milfs who just want a fuck.

It is imo worth the effort unless you just want a cheap wg

[dupont075]

Agreed, its diff than most Wgs, whereas your "mostly" expected to go through with the meet. SA, tends to be a quick drink first and if happy, HAPPY DAYS, if not adios.
Ive sacked a few myself ,cokehead, fake pics, cost me a drink and a chat.

Gotta be honest though I did tend to have mostly med to long term. Sure the odd one off where it didnt quite click, but in general Im as close as you get to the supposed stereotype, but without the jet 

And to add, whereas a punt you both get seconds to minutes to decide whos who as shes stood behind the open door waiting to count the cash, my SA experience is a lot longer sussing each other out all evening or multiple dates (rare), do we get on, does trust and excitement build etc etc THEN she count the cash AFTER the meetings, until trust then the lines get blurred.

Can I ask how expensive it turned out to be? I've only been on it a few days and I'm being asked for ppm basis of anything from 500 - 750 per meet, granted I am not messaging anyone but 9's and 10s but that seems to be the going rate.

[datwabbit]

Can I ask how expensive it turned out to be? I've only been on it a few days and I'm being asked for ppm basis of anything from 500 - 750 per meet, granted I am not messaging anyone but 9's and 10s but that seems to be the going rate.

Talking figures should be discussed on the SA thread. If you're an SA member you can join the SA thread.

[ClayDavies]

There are some gems on SA, you just gotta put the work in and find them

[dupont075]

Talking figures should be discussed on the SA thread. If you're an SA member you can join the SA thread.

Ahh, what is the procedure for this if I may ask?(did not want to message anyone because when I clicked the thread it said you'll be banned for it).

[Steve2]

Ahh, what is the procedure for this if I may ask?(did not want to message anyone because when I clicked the thread it said you'll be banned for it).

Send a PM to Admin

[daviemac]

Ahh, what is the procedure for this if I may ask?(did not want to message anyone because when I clicked the thread it said you'll be banned for it).

If you don't see the instructions for how to join the thread when you click on it you don't meet the criteria and like it says if you pm Admin you will be banned.