The elephant in the room

[Recovering Sex Addict]

Think it was Saint Joseph and Young Conservative

Well I may have been wrong then, but I did initially wonder if Upper Brunei was in anyway linked to Milly as he had reviewed her, FOUR TIMES, if you read his reviews carefully enough and he was rather irrational and aggressive in his defence of her, when I posted a negative on her.

[scoobyboy72]

I'm from the north east but have no hesitation in saying it's becoming a joke now.

[Kev3773]

I'm from the north east but have no hesitation in saying it's becoming a joke now.

I find it quite amusing at times. Just take it for what it is and enjoy the actual punting side of it. There's still loads of great lasses out there without all the drama. 

[Mansell]

Well I may have been wrong then, but I did initially wonder if Upper Brunei was in anyway linked to Milly as he had reviewed her, FOUR TIMES, if you read his reviews carefully enough and he was rather irrational and aggressive in his defence of her, when I posted a negative on her.

Well he did start a thread "I've fallen in love with an Escort" so who knows maybe it was true 

[walking dead]

I think it's something to do with him having feelings for an escort

[Born to punt]

I think it's something to do with him having feelings for an escort

All of this makes sense he really needs to stop seeing girls he is obsessive

[Recovering Sex Addict]

Well he did start a thread "I've fallen in love with an Escort" so who knows maybe it was true 

Dunno, wasn't he being ironic and taking the piss out of people who say that?

I have to say, his wasn't the only account I suspected of giving Milly fake reviews, simply because she was so damn bad - just as bad as hornybrooke123 in many ways - that I couldn't believe the huge positive response she was getting.

Mind you, she was also getting positive reviews from respected posters, so I was never 100%

[scoobyboy72]

I find it quite amusing at times. Just take it for what it is and enjoy the actual punting side of it. There's still loads of great lasses out there without all the drama. 

You're right. It's quite hilarious the way some guys take it to heart 

[The Outsider]

I have to say, his wasn't the only account I suspected of giving Milly fake reviews, simply because she was so damn bad - just as bad as hornybrooke123 in many ways - that I couldn't believe the huge positive response she was getting.

Mind you, she was also getting positive reviews from respected posters, so I was never 100%

I don't know which category I fall into above, but I had a good time with Milly.  Totally different to your experience.  I gave you some grief on your review because of the delay in posting it, and because you'd written a lot if it before.   However, I hope I made it clear that I never doubted your review was a genuine reflection of your experience.  I just took issue on "points of etiquette". 

It does look like Milly is in this up her neck along with UB.     

[Mansell]

Dunno, wasn't he being ironic and taking the piss out of people who say that?

I have to say, his wasn't the only account I suspected of giving Milly fake reviews, simply because she was so damn bad - just as bad as hornybrooke123 in many ways - that I couldn't believe the huge positive response she was getting.

Mind you, she was also getting positive reviews from respected posters, so I was never 100%

That was how the post was framed, but now I wonder ? Although to be honest, who knows or cares. It's all Utter Bollocks.

Just a tip with reviews, you'll get a feel for who has similar tastes / standards as you do. Base your punts on those reviews and just use the other reviews as a guide.

[CELICA GT]

The elephant in the room? That'll be me on a punt.

[Looking4fun]

Well I may have been wrong then, but I did initially wonder if Upper Brunei was in anyway linked to Milly as he had reviewed her, FOUR TIMES, if you read his reviews carefully enough and he was rather irrational and aggressive in his defence of her, when I posted a negative on her.

I got a pm off U.B telling me how she offered extra services to regular punters etc, to this day I've no idea why he did this, as I've never shown an interest in seeing her,
I think she handled herself very well in her responses on here to criticism, but I also think if he'd been honest in his reviews about her at least one punter wouldn't have been so critical about her dress size.
I remember asking him "what had changed" the second time he reviewed a girl in 3 weeks & I got a reply saying "a lot had changed" or words to that affect being all cocky about it.
Not long after that (a few weeks I think) he's pulling up a new member for reviewing the same girl twice in a couple of weeks, hypocritical or what?

[Recovering Sex Addict]

I got a pm off U.B telling me how she offered extra services to regular punters etc, to this day I've no idea why he did this, as I've never shown an interest in seeing her,
I think she handled herself very well in her responses on here to criticism, but I also think if he'd been honest in his reviews about her at least one punter wouldn't have been so critical about her dress size.
I remember asking him "what had changed" the second time he reviewed a girl in 3 weeks & I got a reply saying "a lot had changed" or words to that affect being all cocky about it.
Not long after that (a few weeks I think) he's pulling up a new member for reviewing the same girl twice in a couple of weeks, hypocritical or what?

Millie handled criticism well?

Did you read her responses to my criticism on my negative review of her? She clearly lied and contradicted herself.

Even Bonds gave up defending her, because she was so obviously lying.

[Looking4fun]

Millie handled criticism well?

Did you read her responses to my criticism on my negative review of her? She clearly lied and contradicted herself.

Even Bonds gave up defending her, because she was so obviously lying.

I'm not sure if it was on your review or another punters but if I remember rightly she offered a refund or she'd pay for a booking with another escort,I thought that was a great gesture.

[Recovering Sex Addict]

I'm not sure if it was on your review or another punters but if I remember rightly she offered a refund or she'd pay for a booking with another escort,I thought that was a great gesture.

You need to read the full review/thread mate. She did offer that when I appeared to be a faker, but then when I proved I had been to see her, Bonds said she shouldn't have to pay, but that they still would (in pm). This all seemed a little coordinated to me and I had already stated that I wasn't seeking recompense, making any further offers seem empty.

Plus, Milly's offer was completely spoiled and overshadowed by her lies and attempts to blame me for a poor punt. Rather than summarise, I'll quote myself from the thread:

"Just to remind you: according to Milly, I was too shy to receive a good service and yet at the same time I appeared to be manipulating her into into giving me a better service by projecting a polite and friendly vibe. I kept my mouth closed whilst kissing, denying myself of FK. I had pre-cum during oral, causing her to limit that service and she was in such rapture during ro, that she couldn't help but clamp her legs around my head and stop me. A story which later changed to me using my teeth, which was then modified to me accidentally catching her with my teeth after she moved when I reminded her about her previous explanation."

These points were self-evident and pretty much uncontroversial once I'd summarised them. That is to say, nobody, none of Milly's regulars, nor Bonds or Milly herself tried to dispute them after.

That all said, Milly has since made me an extremely generous offer in pm (if she can be taken at her word that it's genuine) and I would be extremely tempted to take her up on it, if it wasn't for the fact that I can't imagine it would go too well after every thing that's been said on all sides.

Anyway, I feel like I am hijacking the thread somewhat and apologise to the op.

[Looking4fun]

I wouldn't worry about hi-jacking the thread I think it had ran its course,thanks for taking the time to explain what exactly went on,do you think you'll take her up on her offer?

[RandyMarsh]

I'm fairly new to the forum and read the 'outing' saga on UKE. First thoughts were...crikey this forum is pretty eventful and more importantly made me question how safe is it to punt in the NE?

However, the further I read into his story the more I found it odd, far fetched and agree with a lot of the OP points, especially when it comes to the wife creating an account and being manipulated what to write to damage another WG/agencys reputation. And how the wife kept her cool over Christmas and let him stay in the house is beyond me?

If the whole outing is true I would at least have an ounce of respect for my soon to be EX wife, instead of continuing to comment UKE and proceeding to crack jokes. If his missus had been been gathering evidence you would stop posting there and then knowing she can still check.

If he is telling the truth the wife might get a decent pay out as he must have a canny wallet unless he has squandered the lot on all his all his so called duo bookings and triple treats!

Finally, I am not sure how much this has to do with UB outing but conveniently the next day the agencies were at each others throats over discretionary issues, like an episode of Eastenders. As a knock on effect Bonds have barely any WG advertised on their site...but that seems like another drama itself. If it is linked his BS has potentially caused big shit pot between agencies and the WG's.

[datwabbit]

Bonds lost several girls over a Facebook thing which then led to working for several agencies issue. This did seem to happen straight after the outing.

Lots going on in NE.

What with girls working for several agencies, lots of new agency girls - just reading latest reviews shows no agency is perfect.

[Looking4fun]

Bonds were fortunate to have lost one of them as it was summer previously of premium,in my opinion the most inconsistent wg I've booked.

[toon972]

He seems to have gone a bit quiet on uke. If it is true and he is bullshitting then he needs locking up. Anybody going this far to cover multiple accounts is clearly not right in the head and very dangerous. Hopefully one day we may find out but I doubt it now.

[daviemac]

He seems to have gone a bit quiet on uke. If it is true and he is bullshitting then he needs locking up. Anybody going this far to cover multiple accounts is clearly not right in the head and very dangerous. Hopefully one day we may find out but I doubt it now.

Either way he's just an idiot. 

[toon972]

Either way he's just an idiot.

Yeh I was not keen on his reviews and seemed to come across a bit fluffy,

[Kev3773]

Stop being so fkn soft, UB was and still is an arsehole. Me and him never got on, call it a sixth sense, who knows. I didn't trust him he didn't like me. That's life. I'm still honest like me or not 

[Mansell]

Stop being so fkn soft, UB was and still is an arsehole. Me and him never got on, call it a sixth sense, who knows. I didn't trust him he didn't like me. That's life. I'm still honest like me or not 

Agreed, he's just another arse hole that has got found out. The true reviews of some of the girls he saw and raved about are now coming out and they show quite a different picture !!!! He might not be posting on UKE as everyone has now seen through him, but he's always on there if you check his profile. He's probably back on here under another name, sure we'll get him again. To sum up an Agency White Knight who got caught out and tried the biggest sob story going to save himself. I do like his new name that Lynn gave him.  " Utter Bollocks " very fitting, wonder if Admin will change it ???

[Born to punt]

His on line presence has somewhat dwindled making me think he has a new identity. I agree he was an agency white knight.

[Moresomes]

I'll bet a pound to a pinch of shit that he'll be back. (and he'll still be a cunt)

[Recovering Sex Addict]

I wouldn't worry about hi-jacking the thread I think it had ran its course,thanks for taking the time to explain what exactly went on,do you think you'll take her up on her offer?

Ill pm.

[AmyBbw]

And now he's been caught out for hoax outcalls with another NE Agency, or maybe it was his wife?

[OscarC]

And now he's been caught out for hoax outcalls with another NE Agency, or maybe it was his wife?

What do you mean? Booking escorts to a false address?

[AmyBbw]

What do you mean? Booking escorts to a false address?

Yeah, making hoax outcall bookings to fake address's

[the game]

And now he's been caught out for hoax outcalls with another NE Agency, or maybe it was his wife?

And you know that how?

Another very professional post from Bonds 

[AmyBbw]

And you know that how?

Another very professional post from Bonds 

Have a guess!!!

[the game]

Have a guess!!!

I wouldn't know where to start. Half the stuff you post though is just as far fetched as UB's story so forgive me if I'm more than a little skeptical. To me your post is just fanning the flames something which you have of course never been guilty of in the past 

[AmyBbw]

I wouldn't know where to start. Half the stuff you post though is just as far fetched as UB's story so forgive me if I'm more than a little skeptical. To me your post is just fanning the flames something which you have of course never been guilty of in the past 

Couldn't really give two hoots to what you think to be fair, you should know by now I'd not be stupid enough to let my mouth go if I hadn't got the proof to back it up.  Now, you may just want to take a little tissue to that nose of yours, its a bit brown and only your little wriggling feet can me seen dangling from UB's arse.

[the game]

Couldn't really give two hoots to what you think to be fair, you should know by now I'd not be stupid enough to let my mouth go if I hadn't got the proof to back it up.  Now, you may just want to take a little tissue to that nose of yours, its a bit brown and only your little wriggling feet can me seen dangling from UB's arse.

Is that like the proof you had when I pulled you up about Lottie being the same girl who worked as Summer for Premium. You know when you tried to make me out to he a lier with the definative proof you posted? Then low and behold turns out you were full of shit and it was the same girl. But of course you would not be stupid enough to let your mouth go if you hadn't the proof to back it up 

Oh and for the record my origional post was not in defemce of UB as you seem to think. My opinion on that is rightfully banned just so you know. My post was in issue to yours for stirring the pot yet again. Last time you did that you lost around a dozen or so girls you represented at the time nice to see you have learned from that 

[walking dead]

Couldn't really give two hoots to what you think to be fair, you should know by now I'd not be stupid enough to let my mouth go if I hadn't got the proof to back it up.  Now, you may just want to take a little tissue to that nose of yours, its a bit brown and only your little wriggling feet can me seen dangling from UB's arse.

So if you have proof to back it up, I assume you are going to post it to erm,  back up what your saying ?

[the game]

So if you have proof to back it up, I assume you are going to post it to erm,  back up what your saying ?

I am dying to see this proof myself mate.

[AmyBbw]

Is that like the proof you had when I pulled you up about Lottie being the same girl who worked as Summer for Premium. You know when you tried to make me out to he a lier with the definative proof you posted? Then low and behold turns out you were full of shit and it was the same girl. But of course you would not be stupid enough to let your mouth go if you hadn't the proof to back it up 

Oh and for the record my origional post was not in defemce of UB as you seem to think. My opinion on that is rightfully banned just so you know. My post was in issue to yours for stirring the pot yet again. Last time you did that you lost around a dozen or so girls you represented at the time nice to see you have learned from that 

No one made you out to be a liar. As I stated, I only knew the lass as Daisy from Amour before she came to me.  TBF there was no reason for me to hide her identity or lie. You accused me of doctoring the Exif details in photoshop, I purposely took a photograph of the downloaded image data to make it clear it wasn't edited. 

Do you think it shouldn't be made aware that someone who has been banned for having 3 accounts (2 being accounts used for reviewing) has been booking outcall appointments and having ladies sent out to false addresses? the same person that raises some cock and bull story claiming another North East agency who knew his address had outed him to his wife, quite a harmful statement to make tbf.  UB has since messaged me tonight on UKE claiming he has had a lady sent to his house today not at his request.  Maybe he should be asking the other agencies if they have had any hoax's today?? Because my original post clearly did not mention he'd made the hoax booking today.

We have the proof, once the other parties have been consulted I'm sure there will be no issue with sharing it.

[daviemac]

Couldn't really give two hoots to what you think to be fair, you should know by now I'd not be stupid enough to let my mouth go if I hadn't got the proof to back it up.  Now, you may just want to take a little tissue to that nose of yours, its a bit brown and only your little wriggling feet can me seen dangling from UB's arse.

What school of PR did you go to? sound business sense this, come on a punters forum and insult punters   

[OscarC]

We have the proof, once the other parties have been consulted I'm sure there will be no issue with sharing it.

Well hurry up, my bucket of popcorn is going to last all night.  I've got my toenails to cut as well.

[Mansell]

Well hurry up, my bucket of popcorn is going to last all night.  I've got my toenails to cut as well.

Me too, I'm on the 2nd bucket already 

[Moresomes]

We have the proof, once the other parties have been consulted I'm sure there will be no issue with sharing it.

I'm on the edge of me seat. That's another early night buggered. 

[AmyBbw]

Me too, I'm on the 2nd bucket already 

A mobile number called to book a lady for an outcall with an agency a while ago that turned out to be to a fake address. 
This number then called and texted the same agency today in an attempt to book one of their ladies.  He was obviously declined any appointment due to the earlier hoax call. 

This number was then shared, as we do with all hoax and dangerous clients within a private message, when the number was cross ref'd with others there was several positive matches, two reports came back that this number was a known time waster, one that it was UB and the last came back as making and fulfilling an appointment that UB had then reviewed.

As this message contains private conversations between service providers I am not prepared to divulge the screen shots without everyone in the groups permission.  I'm sorry if my word alone is not enough proof, however, it's there.

I have no intention of insulting or undermining any reviewer on here, however,  I have made my point on UB, I have no beef with anyone else.

[the game]

No one made you out to be a liar. As I stated, I only knew the lass as Daisy from Amour before she came to me.  TBF there was no reason for me to hide her identity or lie. You accused me of doctoring the Exif details in photoshop, I purposely took a photograph of the downloaded image data to make it clear it wasn't edited. 

I attempted to alert members to the fact that the girl you were advertsing as Lottie was the girl who was formerly Summer at Premium. I did so as someone had asked and because this is a punters forum for sharing information. I knew for a certain fact that it was the same girl as the same photos were used on your site and premiums. You provided data files and attempted to belittle me and make me out to be a lier. I was not lying and it was the same girl as was proven days later.

Do you think it shouldn't be made aware that someone who has been banned for having 3 accounts (2 being accounts used for reviewing) has been booking outcall appointments and having ladies sent out to false addresses? the same person that raises some cock and bull story claiming another North East agency who knew his address had outed him to his wife, quite a harmful statement to make tbf.  UB has since messaged me tonight on UKE claiming he has had a lady sent to his house today not at his request.  Maybe he should be asking the other agencies if they have had any hoax's today?? Because my original post clearly did not mention he'd made the hoax booking today.

We have the proof, once the other parties have been consulted I'm sure there will be no issue with sharing it.

You have your own forum Saafe which would be more suited for things like that and I believe a whats app group among yourselves to warn each other of any similar issues. This is a punters forum so no I don't believe it is appropriate. I think all you are doing is yet again causing more unnecessary drama. I read UB's outing post over in UKE and nowhere did I see him name an agency being responsible for his alledged outing so prehaps you would like to also post a screenshot of that along with the proof you have of him making hoak outcall bookings? If you do have proof like you said you do then lets have it posted then, you were good enough to make the allegations in the first place so lets see them backed up now.

[thekidah01]

His on line presence has somewhat dwindled making me think he has a new identity. I agree he was an agency white knight.

+1

[datwabbit]

A mobile number called to book a lady for an outcall with an agency a while ago that turned out to be to a fake address. 
This number then called and texted the same agency today in an attempt to book one of their ladies.  He was obviously declined any appointment due to the earlier hoax call. 

Were the outcalls made to agencies that he reviewed?

[OscarC]

And now he is banned from UKE.

[Kev3773]

And now he is banned from UKE.

He'll be back ( if not already) in another guise. Arseholes like him can't help themselves 

[Addicted65]

And now he is banned from UKE.

Think he is banned from UKE as it looks like someone has outed him on there

A post last night from his account outed him with name, photos from childhood, marriage and recent. Also gcve his employers details, links to his Facebook page etc The post was quickly reported and removed.

Completely out of order. Hope the guy is ok and no one saw it that could do him further harm.

[Kev3773]

Think he is banned from UKE as it looks like someone has outed him on there

A post last night from his account outed him with name, photos from childhood, marriage and recent. Also gcve his employers details, links to his Facebook page etc The post was quickly reported and removed.

Completely out of order. Hope the guy is ok and no one saw it that could do him further harm.

Probably his wife, nothing worse than a woman scorned