Are UKPunting members leaving Fake Positive reviews??

[afsdggd3]

Was just browsing adultwork, checking if someone I have seen before was working and her profile is updated with the following message:

"I would appreciate if member/s from a certain escort reviewing site, stop texting, emailing me, asking for freebies, discount on exchange for positive reviews. I appreciate the suggestion. But I'm not interested. I have enough feedbacks here . And don't get offended if I say no. "

So is she referring to UKPunting? are members actually emailing girls on adultwork asking for discounts/free punts in exchange for fake positive reviews on here?

[Liverpool]

It's happened before, wouldn't be surprised if it's happening/happened again.

[GingerNuts]

I doubt anyone is going to admit to this so all anyone can do is speculate if it's happening.

Anyway, how about a link to the profile?

[Moby Dick]

It's happened before, wouldn't be surprised if it's happening/happened again.

Yep, and then there is the scumbags who threaten to leave negs unless they get a freebie.

[ilovekungfu]

It's Dee

External Link/Members Only

[smiths]

Was just browsing adultwork, checking if someone I have seen before was working and her profile is updated with the following message:

"I would appreciate if member/s from a certain escort reviewing site, stop texting, emailing me, asking for freebies, discount on exchange for positive reviews. I appreciate the suggestion. But I'm not interested. I have enough feedbacks here . And don't get offended if I say no. "

So is she referring to UKPunting? are members actually emailing girls on adultwork asking for discounts/free punts in exchange for fake positive reviews on here?

Firstly just because a WG posts something on her profile it doesn't make it true obviously. IF I recall correctly this is from the same Dee who got a hell of a lot of stick on here a few years ago and I have no doubt has a burning hatred of UKP.

Secondly that's not to say this scenario never happens, it may well do so sometimes, certainly some pimps will bribe willing punters with discounts to do positive reviews and a number of so called "punters" have been banned over the years off here for taking bribes off pimps. Again no doubt some other "punters" have a similar arrangement with some WGs who want positives on here in the hope of getting more punters through their doors.

[B4bcock]

This proves the importance of members posting reviews.   The vast majority of reviews are genuine and the more that are put up the better picture we all get of the SP's.   A fake positive amongst a sea of negatives, for instance, will stick out like a sore thumb, whereas, if that fake positive stood alone, we would all assume it to be genuine.

[hendrix]

I'm sure it happens. Vigilance and challenge is important and the fake ones do get called out sometimes. Personally, I'm always wary of the "received a discount for a review" ones from agencies. Even though its claimed the discount still applies to negative reviews, I'm not so sure. But, at least punters can be upfront and state they received a discount for reviewing and then people can decide. I'm sure some will be honest.

[whoya.kiddin]

Firstly just because a WG posts something on her profile it doesn't make it true obviously. IF I recall correctly this is from the same Dee who got a hell of a lot of stick on here a few years ago and I have no doubt has a burning hatred of UKP.

Secondly that's not to say this scenario never happens, it may well do so sometimes, certainly some pimps will bribe willing punters with discounts to do positive reviews and a number of so called "punters" have been banned over the years off here for taking bribes off pimps. Again no doubt some other "punters" have a similar arrangement with some WGs who want positives on here in the hope of getting more punters through their doors.

That is true Smiths but I would give Dee the benefit here.  She has been around a long time and gets consistently good reviews.  I thought some of her old reviews were questionable (the adventures of Hornydevil247 never sounded real to me and I also had grave doubts about Panel999) but anyone trying to muscle this gal is an idiot, has seriously poor judgement and has completely underestimated the person they are dealing with in my opinion.

[smiths]

That is true Smiths but I would give Dee the benefit here.  She has been around a long time and gets consistently good reviews.  I thought some of her old reviews were questionable (the adventures of Hornydevil247 never sounded real to me and I also had grave doubts about Panel999) but anyone trying to muscle this gal is an idiot, has seriously poor judgement and has completely underestimated the person they are dealing with in my opinion.

Unlike you I don't give her the benefit of the doubt and remember her slagging UKP and its punters off on her A/W profile at the time she was getting criticised on here. Came across to me as a horrible cunt, and I have blacklisted her since.

However, I think most if not all of her positive reviews on here are genuine so she does offer a good service generally.

Panel was also another well known reviewer on here when he name changed, I wont be giving the other name he used for his discretion but I had dealings with him with his other name and found him credible, though he did like to go on and on.

Its in the interests of some WGs as well as pimps to try to undermine UKP as they hate it, so i take whats alleged with a huge pinch of salt unless proved to admins satisfaction as true.

[Silencio]

a WG told me that she's had UKP people in the past essentially blackmail her into services she didn't want to do to avoid getting a negative review.

No idea if true or not but a scary thought.

[Dipper]

Some good points made.

Throws up the question of fake reviews in general. Be they pos or neg.

[Doc Holliday]

a WG told me that she's had UKP people in the past essentially blackmail her into services she didn't want to do to avoid getting a negative review.

No idea if true or not but a scary thought.

This has always happened since the beginning of internet reviews.

What is more common is punters identifying themselves as forum members who post reviews, in the hope of improving the punt generally rather than obtaining services the SP would not normally provide.

[daviemac]

a WG told me that she's had UKP people in the past essentially blackmail her into services she didn't want to do to avoid getting a negative review.

No idea if true or not but a scary thought.

Decent SPs (and pimps) report it, there's been a few banned through that. 

[Silencio]

Decent SPs (and pimps) report it, there's been a few banned through that.

That's reassuring, thank you.

[hullad]

We had one on the Yorkshire and Humberside section this week.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=275116.0

I was not happy with it as it was never a report and moved to the discussion board. It turned out to be a malicious post as the OP owned up days later after a few choivce posts.

 The twat has since been banned and I do think the whole lot should be removed now as the lass involved clearly been wronged. We will always get this other providers/pimps being the likely people. Those who have EAS attachment can develope a revenge trait when things go pete tong. The vast majority get spotted as this one did and outed, we need to be on the guard to protect the genuine ones. 

[Gordon Bennett]

I think there are a lot of people who have no qualms about "gaming" the internet review mechanism for their own advantage. Seems to happen a lot on TripAdvisor with guests in hotels or diners in restaurants threatening a poor review if they don't get a freebie/discount so no reason to think it doesn't go on in world of punt too.
It's impossible to say to what extent this sort of chicanery pervades UKP but my general sense is that vast majority of reviews are kosher.

[PatMacGroin]

There have been members caught out for that kind of scumbag behaviour in the past. And I'm sure there will always be some dodgy twat that thinks they are being very clever trying to leverage UKP to their advantage. Thankfully, they are the very much in the minority.

[Turtle1]

There are plenty of scum bags around. Both punters and WG’s

[Beamer]

You get idiot's in all walks of life. I think UKP members are pretty good at identifying fake reviews but as for punters trying to get reduced rates or freebies I don't know how they can be unearthed unless wg's take the initiative and publish those that try this form of  blackmail. 

[scutty brown]

We've had similar or related problems in the past, notably in
South Wales
Milton Keynes
London
Newcastle

Doubtlessly other areas as well.
Of course Dee could be referring to George Muppet - he's known to play that game

[Rochelle]

We've had similar or related problems in the past, notably in
South Wales
Milton Keynes
London
Newcastle

Doubtlessly other areas as well.
Of course Dee could be referring to George Muppet - he's known to play that game

Many play that game. In the past, I was often threatened with negative reviews if I turned someone down.

[ulstersubbie]

Of course Dee could be referring to George Muppet - he's known to play that game

Old George still has a website/Twitter feed even though a lot of his entries are way out of date, he still has a listing for a SP who left the scene nearly a decade ago. I do know of one Domme who told him to fuck off, after he promised to give her a positive review if she offered him certain favours. A real creep.

[LLPunting]

Many play that game. In the past, I was often threatened with negative reviews if I turned someone down.

All ladies who receive such threats pls out the bastards' phone numbers on SAFE or the like, give a physical description if they try it on face to face.   If you charm a UKP identity out of them before they get snippy after you then tell them to go blend their dicks in a rusty lawnmower, pls report details to Admin so they can investigate.  Given that such cunts may well take another punter's handle in vain (!) we need to verify before declaring them ex-communicado.

[MilleMiglia]

At least we haven't got the situation that you had at TER a few years back.

[Beerswillin99]

If people actually post fake positive reviews, her review ratio will end up around 1:1 anyway (One guy posts a fake review, another legit punter goes to see her, finds out she's shit, posts negative review - rinse and repeat). And everyone knows if you see a WG with a 1:1 review ratio the likelihood is she's going to be shit.

[daviemac]

If people actually post fake positive reviews, her review ratio will end up around 1:1 anyway (One guy posts a fake review, another legit punter goes to see her, finds out she's shit, posts negative review - rinse and repeat). And everyone knows if you see a WG with a 1:1 review ratio the likelihood is she's going to be shit.

Doesn't work like that, you haven't factored in the lurkers and the ones who don't review or the non members who've seen the positive.

There’s also the punters who try for cheaper rates or extras from a good provider for not posting a negative. Other punters wouldn't find anything wrong with the service but they wouldn't know about the discount.

[GreyDave]

  I comment on others reveiws and will only reveiw if the girl has give a diffrent service . My tastes are pretty vanila these days and I cant road teat the better girls like some of the tuned studs on here can there fore i look  reveiwer and then the reveiwto see if I might be on same page ...some Nice chaps on here pm me if they think x might be up my street and I will try and remember to give credit to the finder of said WG some reveiws are a bit does what says on tin 4 lines others (like mine some times  ) a breif recount of the event other are just showing off ...fake ones show themselfs up and are spotted quickly.   (Note to self I must get out more  )

[finn5555]

Many play that game. In the past, I was often threatened with negative reviews if I turned someone down.

And knowing you they were told to fuck off 

[Redpunter]

I myself have put a genuine positive review only to be harassed by another fellow member who accused me of making the whole thing up. I told him in no uncertain terms what i thought of him.  He then had the cheek to PM me looking more details of the said girl involved.  In the WGs interest he was told where to go and I spoke to her about him and I believe she was able to work out he was a bit of a pervert and blocked him.
He had the cheek to pm me months later and asked if I had had any more success with this lady or any of her co workers.
My answer was easy the 2nd word being off.

[Hobbit]

It does happen and that's why we have to be vigilant when reading reviews to point out any discrepancies. You can most of the time tell when a review is fake but sometimes you can't.

Many girls are afraid of getting negative reviews because it affects their business. This is why some girls complain about or don't like UKP generally out of fear of getting a negative.

But life is very simple, if you perform well, work hard and provide a good service then you will get positive reviews eventually and if you don't then you get negatives. Any punter trying to manipulate that by offering positive reviews for freebies should be banned from UKP for life.

[mrfishyfoo]

It's the cunts that print out reviews and take them with them that I don't get. 

Give me this or I'll neg you types. 

We've had a few of them in Y&H albeit all have TTBOMK been banned.

[millbush]

There is no chance of rebuttal for most WGs either.

[mrfishyfoo]

There is no chance of rebuttal for most WGs either.

 

There's been many a lass that's come on here to challenge a review.

Some have succeeded and some haven't. 

[daviemac]

There is no chance of rebuttal for most WGs either.

Don't know who told you that, but you're wrong. As long as they post within the rules and give a calm and measured response. It's when they 'go off on one' they hit problems.

[mrfishyfoo]

Don't know who told you that, but you're wrong. As long as they post within the rules and give a calm and measured response. It's when they 'go off on one' they hit problems.

Seems, having read his posts, that he's wrong about alot of stuff. 

[LLPunting]

Seems, having read his posts, that he's wrong about alot of stuff. 

Perhaps he'll clarify that he was talking about those SPs who remain unaware of UKP, those that have no access to a translation facility (whether machine or human) and those that don't give a fuck.

[daviemac]

Perhaps he'll clarify that he was talking about those SPs who remain unaware of UKP,those that have no access to a translation facility, whether machine or human and those that don't give a fuck.

He'd have to change the habit of a lifetime to make his posts clear and understandable. He keeps coming up with random stuff, including staring posts with "you are ignoring this user".   

[mrfishyfoo]

Perhaps he'll clarify that he was talking about those SPs who remain unaware of UKP, those that have no access to a translation facility (whether machine or human) and those that don't give a fuck.

Isn't it obvious ?? 

 

[millbush]

There's been many a lass that's come on here to challenge a review.

How would they do that if they cannot join Einstein?  Not too smart are you 

[freeze44]

Don't know who told you that, but you're wrong. As long as they post within the rules and give a calm and measured response. It's when they 'go off on one' they hit problems.

  and really don't need wg fanboys trying to dilute this site!

[Corky]

Without shadow of a doubt some of the reviews posted on here are fake.

Nowhere near as bad as it is on AW though.

Just look at the posting history and review history of the poster/reviewer.

It will give you an idea of how reliable the review is.

I will be starting my reviews again soon as I am returning to the "scene".

My reviews have become more critical as I have gone a long. Some of my previous reviews I would actually downgrade if I were to do them again.

However they do achieve the main thing I think, which is contributing towards our safety and avoiding total bad experiences.

[freeze44]

Without shadow of a doubt some of the reviews posted on here are fake.

Nowhere near as bad as it is on AW though.

Just look at the posting history and review history of the poster/reviewer.

It will give you an idea of how reliable the review is.

Got any examples? Think it's far less than you seem to be suggesting as most on here can sniff out bs.

[daviemac]

How would they do that if they cannot join Einstein?  Not too smart are you 

There's plenty who joined before registration was closed and only post when necessary, there's a recent one in the NE region, joined August last year, first post a rebuttal of a negative March this year.

You really should think careful and be sure of your facts before you accuse people of not being too smart.   

[wylie anchor]

How would they do that if they cannot join Einstein?  Not too smart are you 

[Beamer]

How would they do that if they cannot join Einstein?  Not too smart are you 

You just can't stop yourself !! 
In future suggest you engage brain before typing. 

[freeze44]

You just can't stop yourself !! 
In future suggest you engage brain before typing. 

There not a lot there to engage! 

Mongbush a classic example of someone looking round to spot the fool in the room...when it's looking straight back at him in the mirror! 

[Rochelle]

And knowing you they were told to fuck off 

100% they were told to fuck off.

[Corky]

Got any examples? Think it's far less than you seem to be suggesting as most on here can sniff out bs.

No, I mean the odd one or two......

[finn5555]

100% they were told to fuck off.

I don’t think I would want to piss you off