How bad was London?

[Bertbanger99]

Being from the north east, I ventured down to London for leisure last week for a week, before setting off I thought, Im going to London, theres bound to be a multitude of good quality SP's to choose from, how wrong was I?
so heres my rant
I was so dissapointed to discover that theres hardly any British girls of any quality, i would safely estimate that well over 90 percent were "brazilians", otherwise Rom's pretending their not, or Rom's, not usually an issue but every single one i investigated on here that looked promising and werent massively overpriced (another major issue) had terrible feedback and reviews.
I must have scoured AW for hours and checked out well over a 100 profiles, none were satisfactory either massively overpriced eg: £200 per hour or £150 per half, no chance! or bad reviews, the only decent ones were working for private agencies and were £300 per hour minimum.
I understand people have different budgets and personally i can afford those prices stated but dont see the value in them.
All in all massively surprised and dissapointed with London, I expected much better, feel free to disagree if you like but thats my opinion and im entitled to post it on here

[Moby Dick]

What did you expect?
Surely it’s in line with Housing, salaries, eating out, price of beer etc etc.

[Bertbanger99]

i was more bothered by the lack of well reviewed choice

[JustaPunter]

Being from the north east, I ventured down to London for leisure last week for a week, before setting off I thought, Im going to London, theres bound to be a multitude of good quality SP's to choose from, how wrong was I?
so heres my rant
I was so dissapointed to discover that theres hardly any British girls of any quality, i would safely estimate that well over 90 percent were "brazilians", otherwise Rom's pretending their not, or Rom's, not usually an issue but every single one i investigated on here that looked promising and werent massively overpriced (another major issue) had terrible feedback and reviews.
I must have scoured AW for hours and checked out well over a 100 profiles, none were satisfactory either massively overpriced eg: £200 per hour or £150 per half, no chance! or bad reviews, the only decent ones were working for private agencies and were £300 per hour minimum.
I understand people have different budgets and personally i can afford those prices stated but dont see the value in them.
All in all massively surprised and dissapointed with London, I expected much better, feel free to disagree if you like but thats my opinion and im entitled to post it on here

Over 90% are Brazilians?

Not sure how you managed to figure that out.

Maybe you should stick with an area that you know well.

You are entitled to post your opinion.

Others are also entitled to state your opinion is rubbish.

[Moby Dick]

Did you consider frequently well reviewed SPs from here:

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?board=18.0

[JustaPunter]

i was more bothered by the lack of well reviewed choice

There are thousands of reviews in the London review board

Maybe you should have spent a bit more time doing your research

[Crockers]

Should have done your research mate.

This is all on you.

All but one on of my punts have been in London.

I have loads of well reviewed London Girls on my HL.

All my SA girls have been in London.

[Robert Musil]

No he's right. I've noticed way more SPs offering £200 per hr post-Covid where it used to be £150-ish. I think £200 per hr is on track to become the new normal. There also seems to be more and more girls charging £400+ who aren't anything particularly special in the looks and service department. London has always been more expensive than the regions but this feels very different.

[Stevelondon]

I’m a Geordie and have lived in the Smoke for years.
I agree the OP should have researched a bit better and he wouldn’t be complaining so much.

I can eat and drink in the centre of London just as cheaply as I can up North. I also punt (yes mostly where I live) anywhere I fancy. South, North etc etc.

You just got to plan things.

[southcoastpunter]

not wanting to turn this thread into yet another "prices" thread (surely we have had enough of them already) but is £200ph "massively overpriced" for London these days - as the OP described it? But his main beef seemed to be lack of quality and lack of well reviewed choices.

there seems to be lots of reviews in London as others above have pointed out and surely "quality" WG's is subjective. If the NE is so much better (and it may well be) he should think himself lucky to live there (at least as far as punting goes)!

[Malvolio]

The percentage of British WGs in London is definitely less than half - doesn't bother me as I'm concerned about the quality of her service, not her nationality.

[sparkus]

Most British WGs are here on tour. The number of British WGs increases in the outer zones, especially places like Romford and Thurrock. My experience of them has been pretty dire compared to stunning Brazilians I have fucked.

[stayer]

There are certainly more charging £200ph, not surprising as most lost money during the pandemic and the market can (at the moment) stand this price as there is a relative shortage of WGs as a lot of them went back home to eastern Europe and haven't come back.

I don't expect punters to keep paying this price after the fuel bills go through the roof this winter.

[Manstead]

Being from the north east, I ventured down to London for leisure last week for a week, before setting off I thought, Im going to London, theres bound to be a multitude of good quality SP's to choose from, how wrong was I?
so heres my rant
I was so dissapointed to discover that theres hardly any British girls of any quality, i would safely estimate that well over 90 percent were "brazilians", otherwise Rom's pretending their not, or Rom's, not usually an issue but every single one i investigated on here that looked promising and werent massively overpriced (another major issue) had terrible feedback and reviews.
I must have scoured AW for hours and checked out well over a 100 profiles, none were satisfactory either massively overpriced eg: £200 per hour or £150 per half, no chance! or bad reviews, the only decent ones were working for private agencies and were £300 per hour minimum.
I understand people have different budgets and personally i can afford those prices stated but dont see the value in them.
All in all massively surprised and dissapointed with London, I expected much better, feel free to disagree if you like but thats my opinion and im entitled to post it on here

I agree with you.

[StingRay]

Aye, it's grim down south, not!

Lot's of good, reliable punts available for £150ph, including a well known and much reported parlour - I won't mention the name in order to avoid being called a tout, but most will know which one it is.

I agree that there's lots of Brazilian girls which, by personal preference I choose to avoid, but that percentage is ridiculous! 

[Stevelondon]

I have to agree with the OP on one count and that is...he has an opinion and he is correct.
He is very much entitled to post about it on here. 

[Bangman]

OP is more or less right, not 90% but lots of shit brazilian wgs if you search on adultwork.
There is a shortage of White English wgs not charging a bomb, compared to other towns around UK in the past decade.
Punting is not as fun as few years ago, options are shitter and pricier for lesser services.

[BillGoldberg]

i was more bothered by the lack of well reviewed choice

I've lived here for 30 years and you're absolutely right, it is currently absolutely shite, with generally substandard service, ludicrous prices and overhyped undeserving girls.

But it wasn't always like this. 10-15 years ago I felt spoilt for choice and quality. Things have changed dramatically in recent years and my recent experience and opinion of punting in London very much matches yours 

[petermisc]

I was so dissapointed to discover that theres hardly any British girls of any quality

If the OP limited himself to only British girls, and only cheap ones at that, I am not surprised he was disappointed.  Good British girls tend to charge premium rates in London.  Plenty of reasonable Thais, Chinese, Hungarians, etc available at reasonable rates.  Some good Brazilians and Roms too, if you do your research.

Coming to London and restricting yourself to only seeing British girls is a bit like going to Benidorm and complaining about the lack of rain.

[Matsuri]

I've been punting since 2007 and £150 then is £204 now. So the post-Covid move to 200 quid an hour as standard isn't as big a leap as I first thought it was. The problem is £150 an hour was always a decent wage even with an agency commission, so it didn't need to change. This then embedded in us punters what to expect at the 150 / 200 / 250 quid price range. The issue is that what we think of as a £150 service now costs 200 quid or more. But, I think this is also on the agencies to make sure their girls know this. 200 notes is still a lot of money for a girl who does light kissing only, rations the amount of attention you can give her tits, and looks like she is thinking about what she needs to buy from Tesco the entire appointment.

What confuses all this more of course is the current economic crisis, which looks only to get worse. 200 quid won't go nearly as far as it did even just a year or two ago, so this hobby may become a twice a year thing if that. Particularly if prices stay high and the quality of women and the service they provide doesn't increase with it. Just my opinion.

[petermisc]

I've been punting since 2007 and £150 then is £204 now. So the post-Covid move to 200 quid an hour as standard isn't as big a leap as I first thought it was.

The issue is that £200 ph for an agency girl is not the new norm.  50% of Diva girls now charge £300+ ph, and 75% of the new entries on LEG are £300+.  £300 ph is the new norm.

[Matsuri]

Wow. I always price sort and stop at 250, so didn't realise so many girls were charging 300 notes. That doesn't seem like good business sense, unless the girls bag themselves a rich regular. But, I can't imagine there are enough of them to go round. In all my years punting, I've seen one girl I'd pay £300 an hour for. So looks like I'll be visiting House of Divine much more, because they have good girls at 150 quid p/h.

[MysteryManNo.7]

My hard limit is £150 per hour and for that I've found plenty of excellent quality girls in London in both parlours and independents though admittedly few of them have been British/English.

I've had excellent punts with Romanians despite the overall negative rep and Poles. Seems a case of OP not doing any research and sticking to only British girls will massively limit you.

[LLPunting]

OP failed to consider the economy and demographics of London compared to whichever area he comes from.
He also failed to realise that the different claimed nationalities of the SPs here operate with different expectations and approaches to service.
If you're expecting to go to any hotbed of sex-worker activity and punt blind at the lower end of the market then you are highly likely to be disappointed with the age, looks, services and quality of the women available, especially if you expect them to look like the local civvy beauties in their Summer skimpies (these too will vary widely according to borough in London).
Perhaps OP would care to list a few typical English girls in his home area that he has punted whom he considers the benchmark of what he was searching for?

[Stevelondon]

OP failed to consider the economy and demographics of London compared to whichever area he comes from.
He also failed to realise that the different claimed nationalities of the SPs here operate with different expectations and approaches to service.
If you're expecting to go to any hotbed of sex-worker activity and punt blind at the lower end of the market then you are highly likely to be disappointed with the age, looks, services and quality of the women available, especially if you expect them to look like the local civvy beauties in their Summer skimpies (these too will vary widely according to borough in London).
Perhaps OP would care to list a few typical English girls in his home area that he has punted whom he considers the benchmark of what he was searching for?

Abso (bloody) lutely.

[Liverpool]

Perhaps OP would care to list a few typical English girls in his home area that he has punted whom he considers the benchmark of what he was searching for?

Don't hold your breath LL. 2 reviews 3 years ago suggests it's grim up north too.

[Heph]

OP failed to consider the economy and demographics of London compared to whichever area he comes from.

Perhaps OP would care to list a few typical English girls in his home area that he has punted whom he considers the benchmark of what he was searching for?

Correct

and, yes, interesting. I was recently in a few towns in the far North and was similarly agog for all the same reasons he lists, with the difference that I was travelling from the opposite direction.

[Makka124]

It’s just going to get worse, as inflation increases and recession starts
The number of women will increase to pay there bills
Lack of quality and majority will burn out because they’ve not thought it through

[Bertbanger99]

Trust me I did more than enough research, maybe I was in London at the wrong time but I insist the overwhelming majority were braz or ROMs, and any British girl had terrible reviews

[petermisc]

Trust me I did more than enough research, maybe I was in London at the wrong time but I insist the overwhelming majority were braz or ROMs, and any British girl had terrible reviews

If you had done your research properly, you would have known not to limit yourself to British girls.  It was a bit like going to Benidorm for skiing.

There are many, many positive reviews in the London section, so there are good punts to be had.  The reason you couldn't find them, was because you had blinkers on.

[PilotMan]

If you had done your research properly, you would have known not to limit yourself to British girls.  It was a bit like going to Benidorm for skiing.

There are many, many positive reviews in the London section, so there are good punts to be had.  The reason you couldn't find them, was because you had blinkers on.

Sounds like it to me too. 

As a percentage there is a low number of English girls in and around London and the Home Counties, and of those that there are, their reviews are no better than any other nationality.

Also, going by his last review nearly three years ago, he may well be out of touch with reality. Everything has gone up in price, not just prossies.

[Ron89]

Can’t say I’m surprised by this perception. For someone coming down from up North you’d expect London to be the holy grail of punting, a plethora of options, a bit like a kid in a sweet shop. It isn’t great these days, a lot of Roms, suspicious looking Brazilians, and extortionately priced Brits. There are good SP’s but the general landscape is poor at best these days.

[PilotMan]

I have to agree with the OP on one count and that is...1 he has an opinion and 2 he is correct.
He is very much entitled to post about it on here. 

That's two counts 

[LLPunting]

Can’t say I’m surprised by this perception. For someone coming down from up North you’d expect London to be the holy grail of punting, a plethora of options, a bit like a kid in a sweet shop. It isn’t great these days, a lot of Roms, suspicious looking Brazilians, and extortionately priced Brits. There are good SP’s but the general landscape is poor at best these days.

There are hundreds/thousands of SPs without any reviews, it is only presumption that none are any good in the absence of (easily found) reports here.  The vast majority of posters do not share any experiences of unreported SPs, very few seem to take a real punt often.

If money is not a constraint then London offers (almost) everything with more variety than probably anywhere else in UK.

[LLPunting]

Trust me I did more than enough research, maybe I was in London at the wrong time but I insist the overwhelming majority were braz or ROMs, and any British girl had terrible reviews

Your limited credibility is further diminished by your "trust me" and "insisting" when it is patently clear that you had unrealistic expectations and only took a limited sampling within your claimed price range. 

[Steely Dan]

If money is not a constraint then London offers (almost) everything with more variety than probably anywhere else in UK.

Ha ha, LLPunting.  I declare you a fluffy pimp for all the escorts in London!  Your cut must be nice (want an assistant?)    

(But you meant 'anywhere in the world')

[LLPunting]

Ha ha, LLPunting.  I declare you a fluffy pimp for all the escorts in London!  Your cut must be nice (want an assistant?)    

(But you meant 'anywhere in the world')

Yeh, fuckin' rollin' in it me.  Got so much dosh don't have enough cheap fanny to spend it on.  "Girlfriends" are cheaper once the Doris' start demanding more than 150 an hour.

[Stevelondon]

That's two counts 

Nope...his opinion counts (apparently).
I was simply stating he was correct. 

One count.

[PilotMan]

Trust me I did more than enough research, maybe I was in London at the wrong time but I insist the overwhelming majority were braz or ROMs, and any British girl had terrible reviews

You say that you don't see the value in a decent SP at £200 per hour in London.

Can you share with us what price point you see as value for a good quality SP in London with good reviews and feedback?

If we can have some context or benchmark, then perhaps your London brethren can help you find a good punt next time you're down in the Smoke.

[JustaPunter]

Trust me I did more than enough research, maybe I was in London at the wrong time but I insist the overwhelming majority were braz or ROMs, and any British girl had terrible reviews

So know better than the thousands of punters in London?

OK…..

Why not just admit that you were priced out the market and accept it?

London is more expensive for everything, that’s what you get when you visit/live in a large City.

One other strange point is that I have never punted a Brazilian or Romanian.

Since when do all British girls get bad reviews?

Apart from some Thai girls previously I have not seen anybody that wasn’t either born in the UK or brought up in the Uk from an early age.

It seems to me that looking at the London review section an awful lot of bad reviews are in fact Brazilians and Romanians.

[southcoastpunter]

London is more expensive for everything, that’s what you get when you visit/live in a large City.

especially a capital city!!

[rebelscum]

So know better than the thousands of punters in London?

OK…..

Why not just admit that you were priced out the market and accept it?

London is more expensive for everything, that’s what you get when you visit/live in a large City.

One other strange point is that I have never punted a Brazilian or Romanian.

Since when do all British girls get bad reviews?

Apart from some Thai girls previously I have not seen anybody that wasn’t either born in the UK or brought up in the Uk from an early age.

It seems to me that looking at the London review section an awful lot of bad reviews are in fact Brazilians and Romanians.

According to him, he had the money to punt with the 200 pound per hr WGs, but didn't want to splash the cash. Like you, I'm calling bullshit on that one.

[Makka124]

According to him, he had the money to punt with the 200 pound per hr WGs, but didn't want to splash the cash. Like you, I'm calling bullshit on that one.

Not necessary BS, he knows what he wanted and the girls that were on offer not to his taste,
I’m sure many have looked at what is available and then thought fuck that

[LLPunting]

Not necessary BS, he knows what he wanted and the girls that were on offer not to his taste,
I’m sure many have looked at what is available and then thought fuck that

Absolute BS if he couldn't find one decent punt for upto 200ph in London across a whole week with realistic expectations.
There's more than enough intel here to guarantee a decent punt for each day of a week with different catagories of SP e.g. indie sub 120ph, extra extra girl sub 200, agency girl sub 200, FS parlour girl sub 110, overpriced parlour girl sub 200, indie sub 200, trans SP, BBW SP, Latina brothel, Rom BB, etc.

[Liverpool]

If his punting history is anything to go by he's spent the grand total of £60 in 3 years.

The guy clearly didn't look hard enough.

The guy punts but doesn't give back to UKP.

[Stevelondon]

Not necessary BS, he knows what he wanted and the girls that were on offer not to his taste,
I’m sure many have looked at what is available and then thought fuck that

Of course. That’s why we are looking at what is available 😂😂😂

[PilotMan]

If his punting history is anything to go by he's spent the grand total of £60 in 3 years.

The guy clearly didn't look hard enough.

The guy punts but doesn't give back to UKP.

His total spend over three punts since he's been a member is 🥁🥁🥁.........£200 - his most expensive punt was £80, and that included CIM & Filming - I think he's a fantasist 

[Bangman]

This thread has given me a idea... to look for the best Reviewed escorts in the whole UKPUNTING.
e.g. a SP that has let's say 30 positive, 1 neutral and 0 negative is a great record. Obviously a escort with 1 positive and zero neutral and negative is unfair..

Is there already a way to search this here?
Anyone know?

I want to find the best escorts and massaues in UK and might even commute further to another town or city if its worth it.

[Moby Dick]

This thread has given me a idea... to look for the best Reviewed escorts in the whole UKPUNTING.
e.g. a SP that has let's say 30 positive, 1 neutral and 0 negative is a great record. Obviously a escort with 1 positive and zero neutral and negative is unfair..

Is there already a way to search this here?
Anyone know?

I want to find the best escorts and massaues in UK and might even commute further to another town or city if its worth it.

It’s not an original idea.

A WG top ranking page was discussed recently:
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=350888.msg3624136#msg3624136

The problem is searching and gathering the data since only AW reviews are indexed.
Plus most is not necessarily best, could just mean oldest, been around longest.

[Liverpool]

It’s not an original idea.

A WG top ranking page was discussed recently:
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=350888.msg3624136#msg3624136

The problem is searching and gathering the data since only AW reviews are indexed.
Plus most is not necessarily best, could just mean oldest, been around longest.

Plus there's also potential issues with fake reviews just to boost a SPs popularity.