Do former BB'ers deserve a second chance?

[JontyR]

We always hope that all SPs are getting tested regularly and take any medication as required. If they get a clean bill of health and then they decide to insist on protection then I don't see what the issue is.

[Thephoenix]

Doesn't everyone deserve a second chance?

[Doc Holliday]

In my opinion, if you don’t have all the facts, i.e. if you can’t prove  the barebacking has stopped, then you cannot adequately manage the risk.

You never know the facts about anyone's sexual history, so you manage the risk by using a condom with everyone. The default assumption in infection control is always that the person(s) involved may be infected.

[Bum Lovin Criminal]

I've said it before and I will say it again. Everyone Barebacks or has Barebacked in their lives, so get over it!

This hobby is not for the fainthearted, and if you are trembling at the thought of someone barebacking, then you should quit and take up Polo. It is extremely fun and a good way of making friends.

I totally agree with that Mr H, I mean in what other hobby would someone with a large square head, goofy buck teeth and bad pot-holey yellow skin

get to shag 9's and 10's girls way out of his league on a regular basis?








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[Thephoenix]

I totally agree with that Mr H, I mean in what other hobby would someone with a large square head, goofy buck teeth and bad pot-holey yellow skin

get to shag 9's and 10's girls way out of his league on a regular basis?








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That's true!


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[Whiteknight]

You never know the facts about anyone's sexual history, so you manage the risk by using a condom with everyone.

Exactly 

[Hobbit]

I totally agree with that Mr H, I mean in what other hobby would someone with a large square head, goofy buck teeth and bad pot-holey yellow skin

get to shag 9's and 10's girls way out of his league on a regular basis?










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Damn! Where did you get my pic from? Now everyone knows what I look like. 

[king tarzan]

I totally agree with that Mr H, I mean in what other hobby would someone with a large square head, goofy buck teeth and bad pot-holey yellow skin

get to shag 9's and 10's girls way out of his league on a regular basis?








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I'm not that bad of description ( thankfully)..
Yes we get to shag hotties galore in this hobby, instead of fantasy wanking over them..

[Bum Lovin Criminal]

Doesn't everyone deserve a second chance?

Yes!  Absolutely Mr P.  A point taken on board.  Almost ready to taken that plunge.........but not the dive!..

[king tarzan]

Yes!  Absolutely Mr P.  A point taken on board.  Almost ready to taken that plunge.........but not the dive!..

This cheap mercy shit gets on my nerves...

You pay a price for what you do

Simpletto......

I have no issue with justified extreme violence even if that causes a one way ticket..
Certain things are completely unforgivable..

[Thephoenix]

This cheap mercy shit gets on my nerves...

You pay a price for what you do

Simpletto......

I have no issue with justified extreme violence even if that causes a one way ticket..
Certain things are completely unforgivable..

I can usually decipher KT's comments, but he's lost me here???

[stampjones]

I can usually decipher KT's comments, but he's lost me here???

I think he’s saying he would happily kill barebackers 

[king tarzan]

I think he’s saying he would happily kill barebackers 

No...
Creatures like Jimmy saville.. Gary glitter...along those lines

Barebackers are  helping themselves kill to themselves, no skin off my banana

[stampjones]

No...
Creatures like Jimmy saville.. Gary glitter...along those lines

Barebackers are  helping themselves kill to themselves, no skin off my banana

Ah that makes more sense. Apologies

[Bum Lovin Criminal]

No...
Creatures like Jimmy saville.. Gary glitter...along those lines

Barebackers are  helping themselves kill to themselves, no skin off my banana

Even SpongeBob is going in Bareback now..Boom-Bo Claat man!  No wonder im skin yellow innit..

Such a bad example to the kids and future generation of Punters..

[king tarzan]

Even SpongeBob is going in Bareback now..Boom-Bo Claat man!  No wonder im skin yellow innit..

Such a bad example to the kids and future generation of Punters..

Cheap mercy forgiveness 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
Firm believer in eye for an eye Simpletto

[Newtothisstuff]

Former barebacker.  Well, that's assuming that you believe her.
This is a game where we use punting phones, lie about our names and our backgrounds. The girls lie about their names, ages, weight, services (sometimes) etc. So when one service is dropped from a tick list, why is it the one thing we should believe?  After all, there are plenty of fluffy punters out there who are happy to go running to an SP to tell them about a bad review or comment. Perhaps an SP realises the bad PR outweighs the good and decides to untick the bareback box. It doesn't mean she stops offering it to regulars or tries to be more subtle about it.
The point is, she may or may not have stopped barebacking clients.  You just don't know.  This isn't a risk free hobby.  The truthful SPs may well only have unprotected sex with their partners, but who's to say who else that partner might also be fucking.
This is a game of managing risk.  Read the profile, read the reviews and talk to the SP. Then make your decision. You're never going to know for sure.  If you're not comfortable with the risk, don't punt.

[JamesKW]

All girls are BBing someone...husband, boyfriend, ex, pimp, 'special' clients, all & sundry...don't kid yourself that any of them make EVERYONE who slings it up them use protection.

Yes and from what I have seen at  parties there are plenty of punters that will try and pull a fast one particularly when they are in doggy position.

[Mr Sinister]

Yes and from what I have seen at  parties there are plenty of punters that will try and pull a fast one particularly when they are in doggy position.

Most guys would BB a civvy on a one nighter no issue or start dating one then BB a few weeks in or so most guys I've talked to are more afraid of getting a girl pregnant than catching something. It's why you get guys who are young with  a bunch of kids by 2-3 different women because they are having unprotected sex with them all.

[Whiteknight]

Most guys would BB a civvy on a one nighter no issue or start dating one then BB a few weeks in or so most guys I've talked to are more afraid of getting a girl pregnant than catching something. It's why you get guys who are young with  a bunch of kids by 2-3 different women because they are having unprotected sex with them all.

Birth control 

[Mr Sinister]

Birth control 

But you cannot always trust a woman to take it, even then you'll find more and more women no longer wanting to take it with all the health and hormonal issues they go through. An ex of mine stopped taking them for this very reason, we even went as far to calculate when she would be fertile to avoid knocking her up. I had some near misses which thankfully I'm happy for.

[myothernameis]

But you cannot always trust a woman to take it, even then you'll find more and more women no longer wanting to take it with all the health and hormonal issues they go through. An ex of mine stopped taking them for this very reason, we even went as far to calculate when she would be fertile to avoid knocking her up. I had some near misses which thankfully I'm happy for.

In my youth, early 20's I have unprotected sex with at least 2 escorts, on one or more occasions.  In my youth I dont know better, and wasn't thinking with my brain, but my dick

Most times when having unprotected sex, I would pull out, and then cum, but a few times I just lost control, and began to fuck the escort harder

Its always been a nagging thought in the back of my head, did I father any kids which I dont know of.  And one of the escorts I was seeing, later on I found out she was pregnant, so was it my kid, hope not

[lillythesavage]

In my youth, early 20's I have unprotected sex with at least 2 escorts, on one or more occasions.  In my youth I dont know better, and wasn't thinking with my brain, but my dick

Most times when having unprotected sex, I would pull out, and then cum, but a few times I just lost control, and began to fuck the escort harder

Its always been a nagging thought in the back of my head, did I father any kids which I dont know of.  And one of the escorts I was seeing, later on I found out she was pregnant, so was it my kid, hope not

Not a lot to worry about if you are not sure, try realising a 33 year old is yours, a child you have known from day 1, at the funeral of the guy he called dad and 150 people are just staring at you, most obviously knowing the truth.

[bbwandy72]

Most guys would BB a civvy on a one nighter no issue

Maybe that's an age thing, but virtually no one from my generation would do that. To some degree I envy the pre-AIDS era when that was commonplace, and maybe younger generations have got complacent about it now that AIDS is no longer a guaranteed killer.

[Bum Lovin Criminal]

Not a lot to worry about if you are not sure, try realising a 33 year old is yours, a child you have known from day 1, at the funeral of the guy he called dad and 150 people are just staring at you, most obviously knowing the truth.

Whoah! that is really hard-core Mr LS, if it was you.  How did/do you cope with that?  Another reason to always 'bag it up' no matter what.

I don't think I could have gone.  Hats to you sir..

[Mr Sinister]

Maybe that's an age thing, but virtually no one from my generation would do that. To some degree I envy the pre-AIDS era when that was commonplace, and maybe younger generations have got complacent about it now that AIDS is no longer a guaranteed killer.

STD went up 41 per cent on over 50s between 2014-2018 I read so everyone has gotten pretty laxed about it. With the boon in online dating casual sex has become so easy to obtain for the lucky, it's easy to become complacent. I've been there myself, you'll be surprised how many well educated normal looking women can be laxed and even encourage raw sex.

[Doc Holliday]

Maybe that's an age thing, but virtually no one from my generation would do that. To some degree I envy the pre-AIDS era when that was commonplace, and maybe younger generations have got complacent about it now that AIDS is no longer a guaranteed killer.

STD went up 41 per cent on over 50s between 2014-2018 I read so everyone has gotten pretty laxed about it. With the boon in online dating casual sex has become so easy to obtain for the lucky, it's easy to become complacent. I've been there myself, you'll be surprised how many well educated normal looking women can be laxed and even encourage raw sex.

This ^

I was about to post similar. Large increase in over 65's also.

In general, studies suggest up to 70% of men and 85% of women admit to having had unsafe sex during a 12 month period, but the majority of them do not consider they were at risk. Also most who consider themselves to have been at risk do not access sexual health services and testing.

Whilst the overall risk of contracting STIs is low, the perception of that risk amongst the population is also very low. "It won't happen to me" etc.

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[Whiteknight]

In general, studies suggest up to 70% of men and 85% of women admit to having had unsafe sex during a 12 month period,

you'll be surprised how many well educated normal looking women can be laxed and even encourage raw sex.

Women do prefer unprotected sex more than Men then.  With these high % in the studies, so it doesn't matter they were former BBers or not, put a condom on and get tested regularly.

[Genesis42777]

All girls are BBing someone...husband, boyfriend, ex, pimp, 'special' clients, all & sundry...don't kid yourself that any of them make EVERYONE who slings it up them use protection.

Totally 100% agree mate,and anyone that thinks otherwise is delusional

regards G 

[Watts.E.Dunn]

STD went up 41 per cent on over 50s between 2014-2018 I read so everyone has gotten pretty laxed about it. With the boon in online dating casual sex has become so easy to obtain for the lucky, it's easy to become complacent. I've been there myself, you'll be surprised how many well educated normal looking women can be laxed and even encourage raw sex.

Probally ... those women aren't as well edcuated as they might be;!...

[king tarzan]

Probally ... those women aren't as well edcuated as they might be;!...

My view is there should be a boundary between professional paid sex and personal sex..

Any woman that can't distinguish that ain't seeing my money...
I love reverse oral without hesitation..
I don't want to be thinking should I or shouldn't I??

Simpletto

[Markc]

I think as most said as long as we use condoms with the WG’s we see we are doing what we can do to be safe.
My favourite regular ( who l have seen for 10 years ) has got a 6 year old she had with an ex-partner so l know she bare-backed with him but it does worry me as we always use protection. She got a new boyfriend now, who does not
know about her job so what she does with him is their business.

When l started going out with the now wife we used condoms at first but about 6 months into our relationship we stopped using condoms as she was on the pill. After we married she stopped taking the pill so we could have children.
She is the only woman l have ever had sex with without a condom but l would not consider myself a bare-backer.
I seen about 60 WG’s over a 30 year period of punting and always wear condoms and have never been offered bare-back and would never accept it.

I think if you look for bare-back it is being offered but some of the EE girls but from what most of said on here l don’t think they will be busy. Also how many times is there service on a girls profile and you get there to see them and they refuse you the service.

[LLPunting]

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I think if you look for bare-back it is being offered but some of the EE girls but from what most of said on here l don’t think they will be busy. Also how many times is there service on a girls profile and you get there to see them and they refuse you the service.

BB is on offer from all quarters of SP'dom, doesn't matter age, looks, race, religion.  I've encountered lax behaviour from escorts and parlour girls, whether older or younger, from all populated continents.  Motives vary; loopy foreign SPs wanting pregnancy as cause to remain in UK, careless SPs who seem to be STI UXBs, lonely SPs who have EAS, substance abusers funding habits, etc.   

Older women, perhaps past menopause and having (re-)connected with their sexual desires, may well like the idea of BB because it reinforces their sense of sexiness when a bloke is being risky and taboo with them.  Certainly the few I've hooked up with in recent years have seemed more eager for a creampie than young civvy fillies in my past.  Jsut my lived experience though. 

[TomB22]

I've had a chat on this with former parlour girl now working AW. The topic came since she mentioned that few girls in her parlour were doing BB to "special" customers and when those girls left the customers picked her and were half-expecting BB. She told me directly - look BB is dangerous so I'm not doing it. But if someone offers me £1000 for it, I'll do it no hesitation.

[Shagswell2001]

Slightly of topic maybe, but relevant I think, I've often wondered about these so called high class up market girls, that spend weeks even months with rich clients.  Imagine you have a hot 20 something, on long term hire, in her thong bikini bending over the railings of your yacht in the south of France and the sight of her pert young ass gives you a stirring in you middle aged pants. Do you say, hang on till I get the rubber on, or do you, with her consent obviously,  pull her bikini bottom to one side and go balls deep for 2 minutes before emptying your load in her.  I'm sure it goes on, only for her to come back here and shag ordinary punters at a rate most of us can only dream about paying  for pussy.

[PaulRuff]

Slightly of topic maybe, but relevant I think, I've often wondered about these so called high class up market girls, that spend weeks even months with rich clients.  Imagine you have a hot 20 something, on long term hire, in her thong bikini bending over the railings of your yacht in the south of France and the sight of her pert young ass gives you a stirring in you middle aged pants. Do you say, hang on till I get the rubber on, or do you, with her consent obviously,  pull her bikini bottom to one side and go balls deep for 2 minutes before emptying your load in her.  I'm sure it goes on, only for her to come back here and shag ordinary punters at a rate most of us can only dream about paying  for pussy.

Knew a girl who was a rich Arab's plaything, for £5400 a month she'd have to be in London a couple of weekends a month when he was in town - she had to delete her AW profile and stop seeing her regulars (including me) in return for this guaranteed income.

It didn't last long as you'd expect, these guys get bored easily & have a high turnover of girls, and yes the sex was all unprotected with the guy cumming pretty much where he wanted to obviously - typically pussy & mouth a couple of times per weekend visit with swallowing also expected.

[myothernameis]

It didn't last long as you'd expect, these guys get bored easily & have a high turnover of girls, and yes the sex was all unprotected with the guy cumming pretty much where he wanted to obviously - typically pussy & mouth a couple of times per weekend visit with swallowing also expected.

Now you have to wonder, if these guys came down with a std, who are they going to blame, will they blame the girl for infecting them

[PaulRuff]

Now you have to wonder, if these guys came down with a std, who are they going to blame, will they blame the girl for infecting them

That wasn't unusual, of course the girl would be blamed & it'd sometimes see her contact terminated.

[Bum Lovin Criminal]

I always thought it was men who were the main drivers for BB sex because BJ's and Pussy felt so much better without.  Very surprised to read women

were more of the initiator for BB for many other reasons outlined above, civvies and SP's and not just to double the money they can charge.

Seems women love 'raw dogging' just as much/more than men.

[king tarzan]

I always thought it was men who were the main drivers for BB sex because BJ's and Pussy felt so much better without.  Very surprised to read women

were more of the initiator for BB for many other reasons outlined above, civvies and SP's and not just to double the money they can charge.

Seems women love 'raw dogging' just as much/more than men.

I've been told people who do that are extremely bitter about having a sexually transmitted disease and are passing it on..
Escort professionals told me that..

[tynetunnel]

Escort professionals told me that..

I think the term “professional” normally relates to jobs such as dentist, doctor, accountant, surveyor, bank manager, healthcare, artist or musician, architect, chemist, scientist, lawyer…. you get the idea I’m sure KT

[YorkshireLad]

I always thought it was men who were the main drivers for BB sex because BJ's and Pussy felt so much better without.  Very surprised to read women

were more of the initiator for BB for many other reasons outlined above, civvies and SP's and not just to double the money they can charge.

Seems women love 'raw dogging' just as much/more than men.

Bareback feels better for women aswell

[Shagswell2001]

I always thought it was men who were the main drivers for BB sex because BJ's and Pussy felt so much better without.  Very surprised to read women

were more of the initiator for BB for many other reasons outlined above, civvies and SP's and not just to double the money they can charge.

Seems women love 'raw dogging' just as much/more than men.

I have to say I've known a few civies and even  my ex wife, that loved the feel of a full hot load inside them.

[Watts.E.Dunn]

I have to say I've known a few civies and even  my ex wife, that loved the feel of a full hot load inside them.

Yep, the long term relationships i've been in were very much like that, the women concerned seemed much happier with a decent load in them:)

Had a few near misses with SP's one in London was having a shared bath with in the Cloisters she was rubbing herslf on me and it got closer as she got warmed up and came very close to just slipping in but large brain said - Shouted No!