Author Topic: Social stigma of being a punter.  (Read 3413 times)

Offline Attention69

Re: Social stigma of being a punter.
« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2012, 09:11:40 pm »
Which women?

Why would you a single man talk to a single woman about prostitutes?

Married men feel the heat. Single men can do as they please.

No the topic came up in work as one of the guys was reading an article related to prostitution and one of the girls just looked and started talking about how sad and pathetic these prostitutes and their clients are.

And what is the reason they are giving for that?

Is it a if he uses prostitutes he mustn't respect women, or the he must have diseases from it, or is it a fear he will continue during dating? Am just curious what the issue they state with it is.

They said that a man that uses prostitutes has no regard for women as they are literally buying a woman to have sex with them. This apparently according to them makes you a pathetic worthless seedy tramp.

Re: Social stigma of being a punter.
« Reply #26 on: October 15, 2012, 10:38:41 pm »
one of the girls just looked and started talking about how sad and pathetic these prostitutes and their clients are.
I tip my hat to any man that has made enough money that he can spend it frivolously on naughty women. It's a delight and a pleasure. Men should be able to empty their balls regularly with as much variety and choice as nature intended. Prostitution thankfully allows this, it's a convenient means to an end where everybody wins. In defense of prostitutes all I have to say is more power to them, it's an easy way to make money and if you actually enjoy pleasing men then there's no better paid job. The tools of their trade are their bodies and their ability to sell carnal pleasures, it's a skill that not all women have or even understand (just ask the jealous housewives on mumsnet). If a WG is so damn good at what she does that men go gaga and keep throwing money at her then she deserves every penny she gets.

They said that a man that uses prostitutes has no regard for women as they are literally buying a woman to have sex with them.
You're not buying the prostitute you're buying their service, both parties are free to go as they please. It has even more of a regard for women than going on the pull for sex because on a night out you don't want the girl as your girlfriend (as she may think) you just want to sleep with her, so you buy her drinks and flirt with her for half the evening whilst masking your true intention. Different method, same result. The next morning the last thing you want is her walking around in your slippers.

This apparently according to them makes you a pathetic worthless seedy tramp.
Don't spend your life worrying about other peoples opinions, if you do, you will end up on your deathbed looking back on nothing but regret.

It's your life, you only have one, so go enjoy it. Fuck everyone else.

Literally.

Offline Ali Katt

Re: Social stigma of being a punter.
« Reply #27 on: October 16, 2012, 12:28:55 am »
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You're not buying the prostitute you're buying their service, both parties are free to go as they please. It has even more of a regard for women than going on the pull for sex because on a night out you don't want the girl as your girlfriend (as she may think) you just want to sleep with her, so you buy her drinks and flirt with her for half the evening whilst masking your true intention. Different method, same result. The next morning the last thing you want is her walking around in your slippers.
You summed it up better than I can  :thumbsup: There can be two ways of paying for sex: directly and indirectly. Indirectly would be buying a woman drinks, a meal, theatre tickets, taxi home or even a car or a house; if sex is expected or the intention of the man. At least with prostitution what's expected is clear.

Offline Shadow

Re: Social stigma of being a punter.
« Reply #28 on: October 16, 2012, 02:30:14 am »
People shouldn't care about what others think. Punting isn't illegal and as long as no one gets hurt then it should be all good. Most non prossie girls hate wgs because the wg has something the non wg doesn't such as good oral skills, toned body etx If these women started being a bit more adventurous in bed and went to the gym then maybe their partners wouldn't feel the need to visit prossies.  :rolleyes:

Offline lex

Re: Social stigma of being a punter.
« Reply #29 on: October 16, 2012, 09:18:04 am »
People shouldn't care about what others think. Punting isn't illegal and as long as no one gets hurt then it should be all good. Most non prossie girls hate wgs because the wg has something the non wg doesn't such as good oral skills, toned body etx If these women started being a bit more adventurous in bed and went to the gym then maybe their partners wouldn't feel the need to visit prossies.  :rolleyes:

I think its more like WGs make it easy for men to cheat on their partners. 

Some older blokes may not want their wives to be adventurous in bed especially when they get over 50.  I'd rather fuck a decent 25 y.o. WG than an adventurous 60 y.o. wife who is begging me to do her up the arse and cum on her face.

Re: Social stigma of being a punter.
« Reply #30 on: October 16, 2012, 11:29:44 am »
That's the harsh reality for you, most women don't become prostititues and they despise those that are, for many reasons. Some founded, some unfounded. They don't think men should be allowed to pay for sex but there's nothing they can do about it which can frustrate them even more. They need to feel they have power over men, like they can withold sex at any time. They like to be put on that pedestal. Morality is subjective, some see punting as immoral, some don't. My advice to you is keep your cards very close to your chest unless you feel able to cope with the backlash of societies stigmas. Though i am not ashamed to be a punter i'd rather avoid this myself. I enjoy the secretiveness of this punter society, i find it fascinating.  :hi:

Offline Ali Katt

Re: Social stigma of being a punter.
« Reply #31 on: October 16, 2012, 11:29:59 am »
I think its more like WGs make it easy for men to cheat on their partners. 

Some older blokes may not want their wives to be adventurous in bed especially when they get over 50.  I'd rather fuck a decent 25 y.o. WG than an adventurous 60 y.o. wife who is begging me to do her up the arse and cum on her face.
Definitely true and the comments I read on mumsnet a while back seem to echo this. When people are in a relationship it's easy to get possessive and it has the opposite effect of driving each other apart.

I agree with Shadow the fact some WGs are stunning can make some (insecure) women feel jealous.

Offline Mr XL

Re: Social stigma of being a punter.
« Reply #32 on: October 17, 2012, 09:37:28 am »
I think its more like WGs make it easy for men to cheat on their partners. 

Some older blokes may not want their wives to be adventurous in bed especially when they get over 50.  I'd rather fuck a decent 25 y.o. WG than an adventurous 60 y.o. wife who is begging me to do her up the arse and cum on her face.

I think you have a point there. At home I want a comfortable life with no surprises. I'm of an age where arriving home to a randy wife wanting adventurous sex would more likely make me feel uncomfortable than arouse me.

I'm not sure I would want some of my fantasies to become a reality. They would stop being a fantasy which is half the fun.

As for social stigma. Some vegetarians see meat eaters like me as beasts. Does it alter my love of meat? No. I would just avoid eating a bloody steak in front of one as I avoid anything to do with punting in front of everyone as it is such a secretive past-time.

There are varying levels of social stigma for all sorts of things. Rather than stop doing something that you feel is OK by you the answer is to avoid brandishing your interest/hobby in front of those you think may cause you problems for it. With punting that is everyone.
« Last Edit: October 17, 2012, 09:43:44 am by Mr XL »

Offline Sarahs Back

Re: Social stigma of being a punter.
« Reply #33 on: October 17, 2012, 12:41:50 pm »
Definitely true and the comments I read on mumsnet a while back seem to echo this. When people are in a relationship it's easy to get possessive and it has the opposite effect of driving each other apart.

I agree with Shadow the fact some WGs are stunning can make some (insecure) women feel jealous.

can I just say that most vanilla women dont look at escort sites, their information comes from gossip and The News.... so have quite an old fashioned view on prostitution.... as in diseased riddled crack whores ......

I would say that this is changing rapidly as more books and films are made to show the other side of what goes on...


Offline AnthG

Re: Social stigma of being a punter.
« Reply #34 on: October 17, 2012, 12:45:37 pm »
can I just say that most vanilla women dont look at escort sites, their information comes from gossip and The News.... so have quite an old fashioned view on prostitution.... as in diseased riddled crack whores ......
I agree with this is this was my honest belief of what Prostitutes were 18 or so months ago.

The best thing ever for me was happening by the RealPunting.com porn site on my lookout for some porn to watch and then the realpunting forums which had mentions of Adultwork on there.

*Edit* And while speaking of RP. It seems from looking at it now the latest girl is Leonie/Kyrsha who was the very first girl I ever punted with. (she is down as 20yo on there though, she is not 20yo she is 22)

Offline Ali Katt

Re: Social stigma of being a punter.
« Reply #35 on: October 17, 2012, 01:56:29 pm »
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The best thing ever for me was happening by the RealPunting.com porn site on my lookout for some porn to watch and then the realpunting forums which had mentions of Adultwork on there.
Realpunting is a guide for me ... as to what not to do on  a punt. There's very few guys on there who can actually fuck, contrast it with Exploited moms to see what I mean.

I've seen 2 videos lately one was Bailie from Liverpool (now retired?) She talked a load of bollocks about being French and gave a crap massage. The guy even used the words "fucking tremendous" - if I was on that punt given her performance she would have received an average review.

The other was a girl called Red (I think) and she said "OK time's nearly up" why say that on a video which is paid advertising?! She looks nervous, but looks like an average shag. Once again the guy has lots of crap foreplay.
« Last Edit: October 17, 2012, 01:58:58 pm by Ali Katt »

Offline sacredrealm

Re: Social stigma of being a punter.
« Reply #36 on: October 18, 2012, 10:04:42 pm »
One of the few things that is putting me off going down this route, for now, isn't stigma (because as someone said, they don't have to know), but its that, I think sometimes, is paying for this not just contributing to the problem of why I might not yet be getting it (with girls that I like) for free?

That could just be over thinking it I know.

But I mean, raising the price of women in general.

If we pay them to do this, because it might seem alot of "civis" think they're too good for anyone, is that not just contributing to it not being a level playing field. I,e the idea of having to do something for/give something to women to get that.

Although some could say its always been that way anyway. Maybe it has.

Offline Matium

Re: Social stigma of being a punter.
« Reply #37 on: October 18, 2012, 10:10:42 pm »
I would say that this is changing rapidly as more books and films are made to show the other side of what goes on...

No it isn't.

You need to go on Mumsnet to see what women really think about WGs.

Offline jackdaw

Re: Social stigma of being a punter.
« Reply #38 on: October 19, 2012, 07:33:21 am »
One of the few things that is putting me off going down this route, for now, isn't stigma (because as someone said, they don't have to know), but its that, I think sometimes, is paying for this not just contributing to the problem of why I might not yet be getting it (with girls that I like) for free?

That could just be over thinking it I know.

But I mean, raising the price of women in general.

If we pay them to do this, because it might seem alot of "civis" think they're too good for anyone, is that not just contributing to it not being a level playing field. I,e the idea of having to do something for/give something to women to get that.

Although some could say its always been that way anyway. Maybe it has.

Tell me you're joking. You don't seriously believe that one more guy paying for sex is going to "raise the price of women in general", do you??

Offline up_peri_scope

Re: Social stigma of being a punter.
« Reply #39 on: October 19, 2012, 09:20:26 am »
You need to go on Mumsnet to see what women really think about WGs.
Thanks for tip I'm rather partial to meringues and they seem to have a few good recipes  :sarcastic:

Back on subject though there is a stigma to being a punter. Any guy single or married who made it known they punted is likely to be slated by anyone that knows them.

I love the excitement punting brings and the NSA sex  ;)

The idea that punting raises women's prices in my considered opinion is bollocks.

Punting is a subject with no real fence. You are either on one side or the other.


Re: Social stigma of being a punter.
« Reply #41 on: October 19, 2012, 09:40:38 am »
hey I learned something here, I never saw realpunting.com before. thanks

modify
oops and then I realised it is a pay site not a rival to AW?

Offline sacredrealm

Re: Social stigma of being a punter.
« Reply #42 on: October 19, 2012, 03:24:44 pm »
Tell me you're joking. You don't seriously believe that one more guy paying for sex is going to "raise the price of women in general", do you??

Nah I don't.
You have a point.

I'm just talking about weather it would be hypocrytical (for me)......in a way. I might be wrong.

Just thinking about the imbalance there is. I.e women seen as a harder thing to get, so much so that some prostitute themselves.
I have nothing against them doing that. Or people using the service. I just wonder if its "right" for me in terms of that. I don't mean in a "moral" or "immoral" way.
I know one person doesn't make a difference but I guess if everyone did something it would make a difference, and you can only be responisble for what you do.

The only other thing really that kind of puts me off is the idea that they might just do it all day with whoever walks in the door. Thats not a jealousy thing. I just don't like the idea of someone almost giving a "performance" the same as they do for eveyone else, and it becoming just a "job". As thats OK to pleasure yourself. But I'd like to know the woman wanted to do it and enjoyed it also.
But Ive never been in the situation to know weather its like that.
« Last Edit: October 19, 2012, 03:26:55 pm by sacredrealm »

Offline AnthG

Re: Social stigma of being a punter.
« Reply #43 on: October 19, 2012, 03:27:05 pm »

But Ive never been in the situation to know weather its like that.
Hi Sacred, can I ask, just out of curiosity, did you ever go through with the punt?

Offline sacredrealm

Re: Social stigma of being a punter.
« Reply #44 on: October 19, 2012, 03:31:45 pm »
Hi Sacred, can I ask, just out of curiosity, did you ever go through with the punt?

No not yet, thanks for asking.
I know that'll probabaly sound silly to most on here who do it regularly.

But for now Ive just kind of thought I'll just be, work on myself, and carry on doing what interests me by myself, and see if anything happens to happen naturaly but without trying to force things.
I.E trying not to feel in a panic about it.

Its not the labels of inexperience that bother me.
Only having a strong drive hah.

But one thing I do feel I need to remove any trace of is any programmed notion of a "first time" needing to be "right" and perfect more than any other time. As if after that it doesn't count or something. I only have abit of that because I gone so long, and had time to think about it.

I haven't really disregarded the idea of this route, and now and then I still go back and forth about it. I can really see it in two halves exactly. Points about it that seem just right for me, and points completley against it at the same time.
« Last Edit: October 19, 2012, 03:40:51 pm by sacredrealm »

Offline ncarter

Re: Social stigma of being a punter.
« Reply #45 on: October 19, 2012, 09:37:37 pm »
That's the harsh reality for you, most women don't become prostititues and they despise those that are, for many reasons. Some founded, some unfounded. They don't think men should be allowed to pay for sex but there's nothing they can do about it which can frustrate them even more. They need to feel they have power over men, like they can withold sex at any time. They like to be put on that pedestal. Morality is subjective, some see punting as immoral, some don't. My advice to you is keep your cards very close to your chest unless you feel able to cope with the backlash of societies stigmas. Though i am not ashamed to be a punter i'd rather avoid this myself. I enjoy the secretiveness of this punter society, i find it fascinating.  :hi:

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