Author Topic: Would a "penetration protected" Escort go "natural" in certain circumstances?  (Read 9657 times)

Offline RedAlertTourist

Hello people

Ok I am theorising here.

First off lets just say that I DO NOT hire the services of Escorts who offer the dreaded "B" Word. Bareback.
That word has so many negative connotations with a lot of Punters and Escorts.
My personal reason for not hiring an Escort who advertises this service is purely the fact there is little or no mention of Sexual Health Precautions, Health Certificates or questioning about when Bareback is honoured.
Maybe I should post my observations in James999 but the stats, odds and rates of the fearsome STDs we dread are a lot lot, lower than we think in the UK.

However back on point. I would, however, be interested on the odd occassion in going "o natural" with an Escort who usually does "penetration protected" along with O.W.O and CIM, on a once in a blue Moon occasion (say once every 6 Months along with a regular visit to the NHS Clinic just in case).
   I mean whats the difference between that and say using Escorts regularly (protected, O.W.O, CIM) but having a One Night Stand with some woman from a Nightclub and using the old "are you on the pill?" as a nudge nudge, wink, wink way of saying- I prefer natural wetness?

I've added a Poll for anonymity. But can anyone add if they managed to to have sex without a Condom.
Me personally I've had a few close calls under "we clicked".
My first UK Escort was so into me and loved my foreplay skills, the size of my penis, massaging that when I asked if she wanted to/could she ride me cowgirl- I noticed she was about to straddle me without putting on the Condom first.
Me- "shouldn't we rubber up first?"
Escort- "Um yeah. Almost forgot"

Another occassion was this Escort who I got on very well with- beyond the point of "clicking". She had such a powerful orgasim lying on her back after I made her ejaculate. She was "that close" to pulling me inside she jumped off the bed- ran to her draws/bedside cabinet (legs and hips still in a state of spasms), quickly grabbed a condom- jumped back on the bed- put it on quick- then fucked me a.s.a.p.

Anyone else have similiar stories?

Also on the subject of making a proposal I flat out believe that a lot of Escorts WOULD go for it especially if you offered a mark up on the fee.
I mean I have asked practically every Escort during foreplay since,
Me- "you feel really nice on my fingers, I bet you must feel like heaven with natural wetness". "Have you ever considered offering a natural service?"
Escort- (hesitates) "Erm. Umm. Er. Hmm no."
  Not convinced by this I have pondered what to say next during our sessions. But I sincerely believe that in certain circumstances (and without pressure) that an Escort would say yes.

Discuss

Offline Wayang

On and on and bloody on and on.
Hypothetical nonsense wasting board space and members' time.

Offline daveev

well well, it was a second meeting with this girl, i told her what to wear and what we would sort of try and play out, first time was protected, she came in her lil short, lil bald cunt  looking  so naughty we got on the bed snogging and teasing, touching and i was talking real pervy to her and could see it was working so good as we carried i was thinking you girls dont get this close, precum dripping all over as she rubbed it over her cunt, she just looked in heaven rubbing harder,  so i carried on talking real pervy, she was pushing her cunt hard at me until she pulled me in i told her we had nothing over she just said fuck it and fuck me hard, so hard to stop when you have got this horny, fuck was a nega night :):) and yes id do it again with another one if chance was right, so before you all say russian roulette i might get hit by a bus tomorrow or something a kin,  :scare:

Offline AnthG

These threads are all over the place and my honest feeling is why would you want to! ??

If an Escort said to me if you want we can miss off the protection during sex, I would say no I want it on without question.

Equally if someone said to me we can go drag racing without a seatbelt on, I would insist on the seatbelt.

And remember its not just HIV/Hepatitis and other STD's you need to worry about, how would you feel if Jennybareback only for you came knocking on your door in 9 months time with RedAlertTourist Junior wanting alimony

If a girl does not offer Bareback that means she uses condoms for her birth control. If she offers you bareback once out of madness that means its highly unlikely she is on the pill.

Is all that worth a fraction more (and even that is highly arguable) pleasure.

Not for me.
« Last Edit: May 15, 2011, 10:58:31 am by AnthG »

Offline softlad

If a girl does not offer Bareback that means she uses condoms for her birth control.
If she offers you bareback once out of madness that means its highly unlikely she is on the pill.

Wrong on both counts.....

Is all that worth a fraction more (and even that is highly arguable) pleasure.

Some obviously think so.

I would add, that whilst I don't condone BB with pro$$ies, I fuckin hate using condoms,
and to me there is a massive difference in feeling.

Offline AnthG

Wrong on both counts.....

Some obviously think so.

I would add, that whilst I don't condone BB with pro$$ies, I fuckin hate using condoms,
and to me there is a massive difference in feeling.
You will likely be right, but I will counter this by saying if I am walking down the street and see a gun on the ground.

I will pick it up put it to my head and pull the trigger. Simply as I know nobody would leave a gun in the street with live bullets inside.....

Fatpro$$ie

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If a girl does not offer Bareback that means she uses condoms for her birth control. If she offers you bareback once out of madness that means its highly unlikely she is on the pill.

Not for me.

Do you really think most of us would be stupid enough to trust a condom as our only form of birth control???  Not offering bareback has nothing to do with the risk of getting pregnant (the majority of us are sensible and have implants/injections etc) it is because of the risk of infection.

Offline softlad

I will counter this by saying if I am walking down the street and see a gun on the ground.

I will pick it up put it to my head and pull the trigger. Simply as I know nobody would leave a gun in the street with live bullets inside.....

I suggest you read my post again..... your 'counter' ain't relevent to it.  :)

Offline AnthG

Do you really think most of us would be stupid enough to trust a condom as our only form of birth control???  Not offering bareback has nothing to do with the risk of getting pregnant (the majority of us are sensible and have implants/injections etc) it is because of the risk of infection.
I suggest you read my post again..... your 'counter' ain't relevent to it.  :)
Will just gracefully bow out of this topic.

Offline RedAlertTourist

Some obviously think so.

I would add, that whilst I don't condone BB with pro$$ies, I fuckin hate using condoms,
and to me there is a massive difference in feeling.

Agreed. Anyone who says there is little or no difference with Condoms is either lying through their teeth or is an inexperienced Virgin who has never had the pleasure of "oh natural" sex.

Its purely a case of "the grapes you cannot reach are always sour".

To be honest I think this thread is original as I am talking about once in a blue moon encounters. I'd happily use non-latex Condoms for 90% of encounters with new Escorts BUT in those cases where natural sex occured spontaneously between consenting adults (bet it a One Night Stand or an Escort you've seen before and clicked with) I think its possible.


Offline RedAlertTourist

well well, it was a second meeting with this girl, i told her what to wear and what we would sort of try and play out, first time was protected, she came in her lil short, lil bald cunt  looking  so naughty we got on the bed snogging and teasing, touching and i was talking real pervy to her and could see it was working so good as we carried i was thinking you girls dont get this close, precum dripping all over as she rubbed it over her cunt, she just looked in heaven rubbing harder,  so i carried on talking real pervy, she was pushing her cunt hard at me until she pulled me in i told her we had nothing over she just said fuck it and fuck me hard, so hard to stop when you have got this horny, fuck was a nega night :):) and yes id do it again with another one if chance was right, so before you all say russian roulette i might get hit by a bus tomorrow or something a kin,  :scare:

Excellent example. This echoes the two occassions it almost happened to myself with Escorts and its how it panned out when I had some one night stands.

The girl always says "do you have a condom?" as a formality. But as soon as she gets going and you've made her cum and she's into it; getting pulled between her legs, her wrapping her calves over the back of your thighs and saying "come on" or "fuck me"- only a newbie would be idiotic enough to say/ask "Duh, should I put the condom on now?"

As for Escorts who maybe reading this read- have you not considered that maybe your client/punter may have gone "bareback" with a wife/girlfriend/fuck buddy/work collegue the night prior to your meeting?

Offline Rain_man

A question for the WG's here....

DO you have BB sex with your partners?

Offline TeenKylie

A question for the WG's here....

DO you have BB sex with your partners?

NO! NEVER!


only a newbie would be idiotic enough to say/ask "Duh, should I put the condom on now?"


Quite an idiotic statement if you ask me.

I think most of us would prefer BB sex over sex with a condom, purely because it feels better, but in my eyes fucking a pro$$ie BB is just plain stupid.  Yes it's been covered in this & other threads that some guys actively seek it & enjoy it & that is their prerogative.  Stopping mid flow to put a rubber on can ruin the moment but my priority is my own health.  If a pro$$ie who I'd seen previously offered me BB mid session I would turn it down & honestly would not see her again.

That is my decision & my choice.  To suggest every other punter would be stupid enough to accept BB is ridiculous.

Online smiths

A few small number of WGs who didnt advertise they offered BB have offered it to me using the words; "because i like you i want you to fuck me BB", always guaranteed to ensure i leave immediately but telling me that they would of offered this to others and enough have taken them up on the offer to make it worthwhile offering it.

Online smiths

Certificates are worthless unless you have the other person under 24/7 survellience, as soon as they have left the GUM with a certificate they could be fucking BB and getting infected and then pass it to you.

I trust no WG or indeed any woman as i dont know and have no way of knowing what she could be getting up to for definite, because of this fact i concentrate on looking after my own sexual health and all medical evidence and all GUMS will tell you doing BB is a risky practice so using my brain and logic i only do  condom sex with anyone outside a loving relationship where we both get tested together.

Online smiths

Excellent example. This echoes the two occassions it almost happened to myself with Escorts and its how it panned out when I had some one night stands.

The girl always says "do you have a condom?" as a formality. But as soon as she gets going and you've made her cum and she's into it; getting pulled between her legs, her wrapping her calves over the back of your thighs and saying "come on" or "fuck me"- only a newbie would be idiotic enough to say/ask "Duh, should I put the condom on now?"

As for Escorts who maybe reading this read- have you not considered that maybe your client/punter may have gone "bareback" with a wife/girlfriend/fuck buddy/work collegue the night prior to your meeting?

You like posting others opinions i note. Like on a thread yesterday about what WGs punters find attractive you dont speak for me, i speak for myself, please dont think your speaking for all punters and how they view things, we are all seperate individuals with differing views, what you post is your opinions and experiences not mine.

I would have a condom with me in the pulling scenario you mention and put in on before fucking her, every time without fail, its those that dont use a condom in that scenario who are being idiotic in my opinion.

Offline RedAlertTourist

Certificates are worthless unless you have the other person under 24/7 survellience, as soon as they have left the GUM with a certificate they could be fucking BB and getting infected and then pass it to you.

The same could be said for standard NHS Clinics.

After going backbare with non W/Gs on two occassions and engaging in Oral sex with another- I got a full sexual health check up done 5 Months after my last unprotected encounter.

The advice and facts given by the clinic was pretty straight forward. Always use Condoms if seeing multiple partners or if I was unsure about my partner's sexual history.
There is no such thing as "safe sex" but the risk can be reduced via Condom use.

All forms of Oral Sex (Including kissing) are NOT safe and can transmit STDs just as well as unprotected Vaginal sex.

So therefore I'm not sure why we are all debating holding out on penetration bareback..........and yet the majority of posters all admit to wanting Escorts that do French Kissing, Come in mouth (whose had other Men's Cum in her mouth), reverse oral (going down on the prossie) and O.W.O.

Are the more cynical members of this board, both Punters/Escorts going to stick to "penetration protected" only then? Or bent and shape the rules of "safe sex" as and when it suits them most?

I think not  :cool:

Online smiths

The same could be said for standard NHS Clinics.

After going backbare with non W/Gs on two occassions and engaging in Oral sex with another- I got a full sexual health check up done 5 Months after my last unprotected encounter.

The advice and facts given by the clinic was pretty straight forward. Always use Condoms if seeing multiple partners or if I was unsure about my partner's sexual history.
There is no such thing as "safe sex" but the risk can be reduced via Condom use.

All forms of Oral Sex (Including kissing) are NOT safe and can transmit STDs just as well as unprotected Vaginal sex.

So therefore I'm not sure why we are all debating holding out on penetration bareback..........and yet the majority of posters all admit to wanting Escorts that do French Kissing, Come in mouth (whose had other Men's Cum in her mouth), reverse oral (going down on the prossie) and O.W.O.

Are the more cynical members of this board, both Punters/Escorts going to stick to "penetration protected" only then? Or bent and shape the rules of "safe sex" as and when it suits them most?

I think not  :cool:

The reason is perfectly simple. Kissing and OWO etc doesnt have the same risk involved as BB, any GUM and other medical evidence will show the same.

So for me its about risks versus rewards, the rewards of DFK and OWO outweigh the risks, with BB the risks hugely outweigh the rewards.


After going backbare with non W/Gs on two occassions and engaging in Oral sex with another- I got a full sexual health check up done 5 Months after my last unprotected encounter.


Well done! Have a gold star!  Look, whatever you do & what others seek is not my business & ergo whatever I do is not anyone else's business.


The advice and facts given by the clinic was pretty straight forward. Always use Condoms if seeing multiple partners or if I was unsure about my partner's sexual history.
There is no such thing as "safe sex" but the risk can be reduced via Condom use.

All forms of Oral Sex (Including kissing) are NOT safe and can transmit STDs just as well as unprotected Vaginal sex.


Well if your clinic is giving you that advice, as professionals in the field of sexual health, then surely it's worth listening to?


So therefore I'm not sure why we are all debating holding out on penetration bareback..........and yet the majority of posters all admit to wanting Escorts that do French Kissing, Come in mouth (whose had other Men's Cum in her mouth), reverse oral (going down on the prossie) and O.W.O.

Are the more cynical members of this board, both Punters/Escorts going to stick to "penetration protected" only then? Or bent and shape the rules of "safe sex" as and when it suits them most?

I think not  :cool:

Yes all services carry certain risks to them, & I'm no expert but what I assume to be true ( & please let me know if I'm wrong) is that bareback vaginal & anal sex carries the highest risk of passing on STI's & STD's.  This is a risk I consider as high risk & therefore take precautions for.  Other services are considered as a hell of a lot less of a risk & therefore happy to take it.

What I'm trying to say is that no ones right or wrong.  You & others believe that BB is a risk your happy to take & myself & others think it's a step too far.  I'd love it if more people gave feedback for pro$$ies who BB as I'd know who to avoid.