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crystaldenison

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  just realised it might not show you guys as much info , basically its saying in 2014 all seeking services members will need to do some form of verification to view the pay to view areas view cams ect ...  and all us girls are not to upload nude or porn photos to our free area anymore
 
  there only on number 1 so far so I am guessing it wont come in all at once

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Movie thumbnails and stills obscured for non-logged in visitors

Members prompted to age-verify when viewing any video content (clips, rentals, DirectCam etc.)

Service providers invited to review all free to view content and self-certify profile is compliant.
 
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Only members that have age-verified will be able to view video content and movie thumbnails/stills.

Service providers invited to review all free to view content and self-certify profile is compliant.
 
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All images obscured to non-logged in visitors except free to view images on profiles that have completed 'Adult Content Certification'.
   
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All images obscured to non-age verified members except free to view and adult content certified.
« Last Edit: March 11, 2014, 01:47:18 pm by crystaldenison »


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yeah the link seems to of fixed itself now  :drinks:

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Also be aware that if you change you mobile number, it can send a text message to that number saying it is from Adultwork.com asking for verification.  Be careful!

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  ...  and all us girls are not to upload nude or porn photos to our free area anymore


This is to raise more revenue from PG sales.

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When this came up in the last couple of days, I assumed it was focused on the SP and although it would have some impact, nothing like the impact that will be had if SS which I assume is the majority of punters have to verify in some way. That would mean a massive shift as many will not want to give CC details or god forbid ID information to AW.

Of course I am assuming this is for pay services like PG, movies and Cam work. Which not all punters use however this will still have an impact on the revenue stream of prossies.

The big change would be if they start to look at verification for emails, bookings etc. As many WG's only accept bookings that way, might be a good time to invest in some companies which specialise in escort friendly web design.

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I wonder how many punters will be prepared to supply AW with anything which might allow them to be identified. :rolleyes:

vorian

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I wonder how many punters will be prepared to supply AW with anything which might allow them to be identified. :rolleyes:

Not that many I would have thought, PG/Movie revenue could collapse, god knows what the knock on effect will be.

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don't know how they plan to age veri punters once they realise how off putting it is (loss of £££ for them)  I am sure they will come up with a way that's just a few clicks lol

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don't know how they plan to age veri punters once they realise how off putting it is (loss of £££ for them)  I am sure they will come up with a way that's just a few clicks lol

At the moment most adult sites use some form of credit card (Not debit) charge, so the bare minimum would mean handing over a credit card number to AW and having a £1 charge, then refunded on it. The whole pre paid charge charge (UK cash, or something like that) would stop or at least you could only use them after handing over your real details.


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When this came up in the last couple of days, I assumed it was focused on the SP and although it would have some impact, nothing like the impact that will be had if SS which I assume is the majority of punters have to verify in some way. That would mean a massive shift as many will not want to give CC details or god forbid ID information to AW.

Of course I am assuming this is for pay services like PG, movies and Cam work. Which not all punters use however this will still have an impact on the revenue stream of prossies.

The big change would be if they start to look at verification for emails, bookings etc. As many WG's only accept bookings that way, might be a good time to invest in some companies which specialise in escort friendly web design.
The governement has proposed a scheme for website to be age classified, it hasn't been passed,but AW are getting in early or maybe they are trying to circumvent the babble of mumsnet and their ilk. Most escorts don't take bookings via AW and many advertise elsewhere such as Vivastreet, X-north, you name it. I don't book anyone if they don't display a phone number or send one via email. Any idiot can make a website on Wix, a blogsite or weebly. I don't give a fuck if it impacts prossie's sales, most content is shit anyway, and believe me I know I've spent enough on it over the years. I only buy it if I am considering seeing the prossie, a PG or a movie for a few quid has prevented some shockers I'm sure.
« Last Edit: March 11, 2014, 02:10:15 pm by Ali Katt »

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don't know how they plan to age veri punters once they realise how off putting it is (loss of £££ for them)  I am sure they will come up with a way that's just a few clicks lol

The usual method is by sending a text to you, for you to reply to, confirming you are over 18. AFAIR, if you've already verified this with your mobile operator, then the text should go through to them, confirming you are over 18.


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I have a few credits on my account which I purchased using a UKash voucher.

When I bought that voucher I had to specify to the vendor I wanted it to be able to be used for 18+ purposes, and presumably the voucher was tagged with that in some way, and was checked when I spent it on AW.

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The governement has proposed a scheme for website to be age classified, it hasn't been passed,but AW are getting in early or maybe they are trying to circumvent the babble of mumsnet and their ilk. Most escorts don't take bookings via AW and many advertise elsewhere such as Vivastreet, X-north, you name it. I don't book anyone if I they don't display a phone number or send one via email. Any idiot can make a website on Wix, a blogsite or weebly. I don't give a fuck if it impacts prossie's sales, most content is shit anyway, and believe me I know I've spent enough on it over the years. I only buy it if I am considering seeing the prossie, a PG or a movie for a few quid has prevented some shockers I'm sure.

Makes sense what your saying, however some punters do book through AW, and from a punters point of view if a prossy loses money from AW sales then that may lead to her increasing the escorting prices to make up the short fall, which will affect punters. Also I like you , use the PG/movies to help with choosing a prossy, does save a lot of money in the long term, will people do that if they have to prove identity to AW and might lead to more blind punts, which won't good for punters either.

At the moment I struggling to find anything with changes which will work out better for the punter.

vorian

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The usual method is by sending a text to you, for you to reply to, confirming you are over 18. AFAIR, if you've already verified this with your mobile operator, then the text should go through to them, confirming you are over 18.

I have a nightmare with EE at the moment, I am alway having my adult content randomly blocked and have to go through a right hassle to get it back on. Speaking to friends I'm not the only one to have problems with this. So I'm not too trusting with my mobile operator to do this correctly. Also a lot of punters use  cheap pay as you go punting phones so that wouldn't work for them.

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Makes sense what your saying, however some punters do book through AW, and from a punters point of view if a prossy loses money from AW sales then that may lead to her increasing the escorting prices to make up the short fall, which will affect punters. Also I like you , use the PG/movies to help with choosing a prossy, does save a lot of money in the long term, will people do that if they have to prove identity to AW and might lead to more blind punts, which won't good for punters either.

At the moment I struggling to find anything with changes which will work out better for the punter.
I did consider that. Surely they would just put the prices of their PG or movies up? I don't bother seeing a prossie if they put their prices up or if they get greedy I sack them off. I don't care if I need to age verify as long as I don't need to show a passport scan or similar.

From my experience I've only had one prossie actually confirm a booking, was that because they may incur a negative? Instead of concentrating on the piss and shit of website politics, they would be better off getting rid of hidden feedback, punter notes, start banning repeat scammers and other bullshit.
« Last Edit: March 11, 2014, 02:22:31 pm by Ali Katt »

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Why is that pro$$ie say ect instead of Etc

I am not expecting them to have attended schools where Latin was taught

But  Et means "and"; cētera means "the rest."

So say ect really makes no sense

I am willing to offer Latin lessons to pro$$ie's who want to improve themselves

vorian

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Instead of concentrating on the piss and shit of website politics, they would be better off getting rid of hidden feedback, punter notes, start banning repeat scammers and other bullshit.

Could not agree more Sir  :hi: just another way of distracting the punter from the poor service AW provides.


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I have a nightmare with EE at the moment, I am alway having my adult content randomly blocked and have to go through a right hassle to get it back on. Speaking to friends I'm not the only one to have problems with this. So I'm not too trusting with my mobile operator to do this correctly. Also a lot of punters use  cheap pay as you go punting phones so that wouldn't work for them.

I've had that "adult content blocked" problem with EE. I just close safari (or google/web browser) then do the double-click home button and swipe thing to delete it from running in the background. I then open safari again, re-click the shortcut for the adult content page and it works. No need to contact EE again, worked so far for me.
« Last Edit: March 11, 2014, 02:26:20 pm by a10 »

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I wonder how many punters will be prepared to supply AW with anything which might allow them to be identified. :rolleyes:

I wouldnt give them dodgy pricks who own A/W the drippings off my cock. Just another money making scam be these people. ;)

vorian

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I've had that "adult content blocked" problem with EE. I just close safari (or google/web browser) then do the double-click home button and swipe thing to delete it from running in the background. I then open safari again, re-click the shortcut for the adult content page and it works. No need to contact EE again, worked so far for me.

Cheers A10 good advice, I just like ringing them up and having a pop, I tell them I run a business selling sex toys on the net and need access to my business web site on the move. You wouldn't believe how quickly you get passed up the chain of command when you tell some customer service bod that. Normally speak to a manager, who fixes it with an apology and £10 off the bill. Still annoying though.

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I did consider that. Surely they would just put the prices of their PG or movies up? I don't bother seeing a prossie if they put their prices up or if they get greedy I sack them off. I don't care if I need to age verify as long as I don't need to show a passport scan or similar.

From my experience I've only had one prossie actually confirm a booking, was that because they may incur a negative? Instead of concentrating on the piss and shit of website politics, they would be better off getting rid of hidden feedback, punter notes, start banning repeat scammers and other bullshit.

But A/W make money off all those low lifes of course, and being low lifes themselves just want to fuck us all over as much as they can. ;)

Curious6705

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I wouldnt give them dodgy pricks who own A/W the drippings off my cock. Just another money making scam be these people. ;)

Too right mate!  :hi:

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I've had that "adult content blocked" problem with EE. I just close safari (or google/web browser) then do the double-click home button and swipe thing to delete it from running in the background. I then open safari again, re-click the shortcut for the adult content page and it works. No need to contact EE again, worked so far for me.

I'm with Orange/EE and just use a free VPN app on my Android phone.

Offline sixtyten

That's a lot of members paying £1 for verification giving a huge cash injection to AW. Just saying.  :angelgirl:

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I have a few credits on my account which I purchased using a UKash voucher.

When I bought that voucher I had to specify to the vendor I wanted it to be able to be used for 18+ purposes, and presumably the voucher was tagged with that in some way, and was checked when I spent it on AW.

That's weird, they never even asked that with mine and it worked just fine.

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Why is that pro$$ie say ect instead of Etc

I am not expecting them to have attended schools where Latin was taught

But  Et means "and"; cētera means "the rest."

So say ect really makes no sense

I am willing to offer Latin lessons to pro$$ie's who want to improve themselves

Good idea - first lesson might be an oral exam and understanding of basic Latin words such as...mmmmmm, fellatio, cum et cetera :lol:

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That's a lot of members paying £1 for verification giving a huge cash injection to AW. Just saying.  :angelgirl:

Not really since the idea is that £1 is refunded

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I have a few credits on my account which I purchased using a UKash voucher.

When I bought that voucher I had to specify to the vendor I wanted it to be able to be used for 18+ purposes, and presumably the voucher was tagged with that in some way, and was checked when I spent it on AW.
Have to agree with pleasure,thats really odd.I've used UKash a few times now for aw and i've never once been asked anything when buying them.Think youve just got a nosey shokeeper

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The vouchers are only tagged when you use them, i.e. AW and gambling sites ask for age verification. They are not an age restricted product and are no different to buying a mobile phone top up.

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Have to agree with pleasure,thats really odd.I've used UKash a few times now for aw and i've never once been asked anything when buying them.Think youve just got a nosey shokeeper

Really? can't see where it says that and you currently have to buy 5 credits, doesn't work for anything lower.

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Why is that pro$$ie say ect instead of Etc

I am not expecting them to have attended schools where Latin was taught

But  Et means "and"; cētera means "the rest."

So say ect really makes no sense

I am willing to offer Latin lessons to pro$$ie's who want to improve themselves

I am willing to offer you English lessons, if you are able to understand this sentence.

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Why is that pro$$ie say ect instead of Etc

I am not expecting them to have attended schools where Latin was taught

But  Et means "and"; cētera means "the rest."

So say ect really makes no sense

I am willing to offer Latin lessons to pro$$ie's who want to improve themselves

Totally OT but I was privately educated from the age of 3 when I started prep school till I left after my GCSE's. Latin WAS taught but was optional, and I decided to do 2 modern languages instead. Not all wg's are thick as mince!

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Will I still be able to log in if I don't verify my age when it happens ?

vorian

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Totally OT but I was privately educated from the age of 3 when I started prep school till I left after my GCSE's. Latin WAS taught but was optional, and I decided to do 2 modern languages instead. Not all wg's are thick as mince!

True, not all but most are as thick as shit if you read enough profiles eventually that is the only conclusion you can come to, nice avatar btw.

vorian

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Will I still be able to log in if I don't verify my age when it happens ?

Don't know for sure,  I would guess yes in the short term, long term who knows. :unknown:

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Will I still be able to log in if I don't verify my age when it happens ?
Yes. It hasn't gone ahead yet anyway. I think you just won't be able to view movies. It reminds me a bit of those crap sites were the movies have a padlock symbol over them, you know the ones.

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Yes. It hasn't gone ahead yet anyway. I think you just won't be able to view movies. It reminds me a bit of those crap sites were the movies have a padlock symbol over them, you know the ones.

Can never remember doing  but is seems that I am actually already verified 

Your Age Verification Status:   Verified


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Totally OT but I was privately educated from the age of 3 when I started prep school till I left after my GCSE's. Latin WAS taught but was optional, and I decided to do 2 modern languages instead. Not all wg's are thick as mince!
I don't think he said they are, but you chose to be offended on behalf of prossiekind, how cute. Go trawling AW you will find many very intelligant escorts that are ivy league edecated. I have met some very smart prossies, a lot haven't been British. Polish women and students are generally smart, sit at home, bean flicking housewives that talk about their lickle bastards are usually as fik as pigshit.

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Have to agree with pleasure,thats really odd.I've used UKash a few times now for aw and i've never once been asked anything when buying them.Think youve just got a nosey shokeeper

Agreed - I bought a Ukash voucher recently and wasn't asked about what I would use it for.  AW age-verify by asking for a date of birth when you redeem the voucher on the site.

Offline Jimmyredcab

There seems to be a lot of hatred directed at adultwork, all they are doing is running a very profitable business.

I don't buy private galleries for porn,
I hope to get a face picture, why would anyone pay for porn in 2014.    :wacko:

Curious6705

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Agreed - I bought a Ukash voucher recently and wasn't asked about what I would use it for.  AW age-verify by asking for a date of birth when you redeem the voucher on the site.

Well it was no big deal to say yes I want it to be able to be used for 18+ stuff. I expected the question because I'm sure I read about using ukash on UKP and guys saying they were asked the same question. I don't recall being asked age when I used it on AW, but cannot be certain I wasn't. I've only used ukash for AW credits twice. I've used AW as little as possible since a bad punt with an SP on there in July 2012.

I mentioned it because if it were the case that ukash vouchers can be tagged as age verified then I don't see why AW need further personal ID from users.

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I wonder how many punters will be prepared to supply AW with anything which might allow them to be identified. :rolleyes:

No way in the world will I ever do that.

All businesses become more greedy as time goes on and it becomes their eventual downfall.

I hope that happens sooner rather than later so that something better will take over.

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There seems to be a lot of hatred directed at adultwork, all they are doing is running a very profitable business.

On our backs.

The hatred is because it's become a vehicle for scams.

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Bottom line is, money that goes into adultwork is from punters' pockets. Why isn't it punters' interests and convenience that are considered? This new measure is not for punters'' sake. Just like the failure to remove clear scams, fakes, etc. it seems their greed leads them to implement measures that are not friendly to the people whose money becomes their profit. If you are logged in to aw, why should you not be able to see explicit content? Are we saying kids can go to aw, have an account, look at profiles, read the stuff etc but we draw the line at explicit content? If it's to stop minors from looking, isn't that what the whole net nanny thing is for? Or the adult site block opt out/in through net providers is for? It doesn't make sense other than to increase charges for punters, which will no doubt decrease punting through aw.

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Bottom line is, money that goes into adultwork is from punters' pockets.

Well, not quite.

Punters can use AW quite happily without paying them anything.  Prossies are AW's true customers as they have to pay to advertise.  Now of course it's true that Punters can and do pay for all the extras but that, I suspect, is small change compared with what AW get paid by hookers to advertise on there.

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The money they use is money from punters, clearly. The money made on aw is from punters, both directly and indirectly. You can use it without paying, but the money that is paid is from punters. If a punter uses it free, it increases the numbers using it, which is why WGs use it, and so forth. No punters, no money on adultwork.

vorian

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Well, not quite.

Punters can use AW quite happily without paying them anything.  Prossies are AW's true customers as they have to pay to advertise.  Now of course it's true that Punters can and do pay for all the extras but that, I suspect, is small change compared with what AW get paid by hookers to advertise on there.

My understanding of the AW business model and I maybe wrong is a basic profile is free with no start up costs and the WG's pay monthly for extras such as displaying a phone numbe, featured escort that sort of thing. Then they pay AW 30% commission all all revenue generated by PG and gallery sales. The vast majority of the money is from punters pockets.

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And the money from service providers is clearly generated from punters.