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JAS0N

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I think it is to much of a gamble as I would not want to visit a gum clinic and worrry that I could have caught hiv which may not show for years.
what are your thoughts?

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This, like hardsports, isn't something you are going to get honest responses to, so is always a redundant question.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2013, 09:56:12 am by NIK »

Offline Jimmyredcab

I think it is to much of a gamble as I would not want to visit a gum clinic and worrry that I could have caught hiv which may not show for years.
what are your thoughts?

My thoughts.
Pro$$ies who offer bareback are filthy skanks, punters who seek that service are just as bad.   :thumbsdown:

James999

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More and more  pro$$ies offer it (often at no extra cost), they just lay back their legs and no mention of a condom  :scare:

As most pro$$ies buy their condoms it's probably a financial incentive to them, I know it doesn't make sense but it's pro$$ie logic, why spend £12 on a paclk of condoms when they can get a bottle of Vodka for that  :cry:

WOuld I bareback a pro$$ie ? Not in a million years  :hi:
« Last Edit: January 04, 2013, 10:04:53 am by James999 »

The President

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Big NOOOOOOOO from me too risky!

I am however one that experienced te HIV/Aids advertising campaign and that will be instilled into my brain a lifetime - it should be brought back!

Why on hell would anyone risk this is beyond me!!! Each to their own they say - No I say as its spreading a terrible virus!

Hospitals close for the Norovirus but its acceptable to place yourself within reach of Hep/HIV - wtf???

Bring back the criminal prosecutions that were undertaken where someone knowing they had HIV who had unprotected sex could be done for it!!!

Strong views yes but when you see cancer or lung disease victims die an evil death then placing yourself at risk for the sake of a condom imo is suicidal madness and why should the nhs have to pick up the pieces when its known to be protected!?

My views are strong and I have lost family from cancer etc and tbh eventhough losing a family member of lung failure atm I am no hypercrit in that they should fund the treatment being it was self inflicted!

One area I cant be diplomatic or liberal on having lost to it

I suppose its same for everyone who has lost family say from drink drive (although most dont know how easy it is to do!) etc etc

Offline jjmoons

Agreed, as pleasurable as it may be it's not worth the risk although saying that I do like OWO and that still carries risks.

Question is would you still see a WG who offers bareback sex but only see her for oral?

JAS0N

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The President I agree totaly I had bareback a few years ago on a 1 night stand and worried about it for years after in case I had caught anything.
I would not do it again I will do owo but thats it If a pro$$ie does barback I would avoid.

The President

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OWO does have risks as all things in life but the risks much lower and the consequences are not as 'fatal'

When I search AW I always tick 'dislike' BB

Whore Of Babylon

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HIV no longer carries the death sentance it once used to. People can live with it and its manageable. It's still pretty serious and something you have to take a horrible cocktail of drugs for everyday.

It's also (as viruses go) hard to catch. The stats of getting HIV from unprotected sex are lower than you might imagine, think they're kept hushed up, so as not to encourage riskier behaviour.
Even so you won't ever catch me having unprotected sex with casual or paid partners.

As for owo. I receive conflicting reports from health care professionals. I provide owo at the moment despite getting a wrist slap from some clinics. I wouldn't worry about HIV from unprotected oral. But gonorrhoea and Clamydia are possibilities so to is genital herpes. (If the WG has coldsores).
I know many WGs go years and years providing owo and not contracting anything.

If anyone can provide accurate statitics to the risks or giving and receiving unprotected oral I would very interested.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2013, 11:08:30 am by Whore Of Babylon »

Offline Jimmyredcab

HIV no longer carries the death sentance it once used to. People can live with it and its manageable. It's still pretty serious and something you have to take a horrible cocktail of drugs for everyday.

It's also (as viruses go) hard to catch. The stats of getting HIV from unprotected sex are lower than you might imagine, think they're kept hushed up, so as not to encourage riskier behaviour.


What about Herpes and genital warts.     :scare: :scare:

Offline billyjo

I avoid bareback girls at all costs, think I'm going to avoid OWO with working girls in future too, better to be safe than sorry.

Whore Of Babylon

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What about Herpes and genital warts.     :scare: :scare:
Absolutely can get all and much more from unprotected sex, the list is rather long. But often or not people care less about other diseases than HIV. Stupid.

Most people over the age of 30 have already the herpes and wart viruses but they lay dormant.

Are you a owo fan? You can get herpes from owo. If the lady has an outbreak of coldsores or not because of viral shedding.
Coldsores are herpes virus.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2013, 11:40:21 am by Whore Of Babylon »

Whore Of Babylon

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I avoid bareback girls at all costs, think I'm going to avoid OWO with working girls in future too, better to be safe than sorry.
The owo is a hot potato. I think because most guys really love it and I find it hard to gain access to correct exact details of the real risk.
But the fact there are antibiotic resistant strains of clap appearing, I'm considering not offering it anymore. It's hard to know the exact risk as health care profs do often go in for a scare mongering tactics to reduce mildly risky activities.

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I have no interest in bareback, I don't even do it in my private, non-punting civvy-dating life. I think OWO is a separate topic in itself. Very few women offering bareback sex are attractive on adultwork, many are council estate chavs, fat old women and the dregs of Eastern Europe; many profiles list it on purpose to get more views or to attract more business, from my experiences I've never been offered it, but will avoid anyone who lists it or hints to it (e.g. has pictures of creampies in their gallery).

Offline Marmalade

I'm loathe to offer jason advice as he spits it back up, but thats what we are here for even to the ungrateful and most newbies are. Get back in the saddle mate. Try to shag a broad selection in a short space of time (eg experienced and new-to-the-game). Study the UKP AW Guide if you haven't done so. One of the biggest jumps from civvy to prossie fucking is the lack of emotional content or feeling that any content you get is fake. Just enjoy the fucking. Your cock is on costa del fanny and some will be shite, some amazing and most somewhere inbetween. It is not a reflection on you, only on them. Get two or three under your belt and share your experiences on here if you still like us. You can be sweet to them on the job (gets a better result anyway) but think with your head until you have all your bases covered, after that you can relax and enjoy. We will be more unemotional on here simply to help people sharpen their wits and get a better punt. I'm not trying to preach, just genuinely trying to help you. Good luck. And there will always (unfortunately perhaps) be some soft heart or lost prossie on here if that sounds too harsh.

JAS0N

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Marmalade I do like advice and would like good advice from yourself I have no problem with you but I get pissed off when people try to get my topics removed from the site.

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Marmalade I do like advice and would like good advice from yourself I have no problem with you but I get pissed off when people try to get my topics removed from the site.
If you post in an inappropriate section it will piss some people off and hopefully just get moved. The site is moderated, so no-one has much influence on mod decisions.

JAS0N

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Marmalade I am still new to this site and not sure where to put the posts.

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Marmalade I am still new to this site and not sure where to put the posts.
Don't worry. And don't worry if the language is strong. (Trusting you have a pair.)

Offline billyjo

Someone I know loved his bareback with attractive prostitutes, end result was he ended up HIV+ and ended up hanging himself not long after he found out.

I could never do bareback with a working girl even if she was paying me, I also avoid anything with hardsports or the girls that offer these services.

MethodMan

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some will be shite, some amazing and most somewhere inbetween

I think you have just described most punters, punting experience!

James999

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If a Pro$$ie offers bareback I assume she is either

A. Already infected and as such doesn't care
B. Drug addict / Alcoholic and very desperate
C. Forced
D. Mentally unstable
E. Combination of the above

As such all good reasons to avoid  :hi:

Whore Of Babylon

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Can I ask why you would even slightly give it consideration? Do you not get on with condoms?

Offline Marmalade

Fortunately there's enough choice. I discount any profiles offering bb. Bit you hardly know what she's done before. Easier to assume she's a health risk and cover up as routine. Rejecting bb is more about rejecting someone who's stupid rather than taking proper precautions. Beware of going on moral crusades. Just reject them.

Offline smiths

I think it is to much of a gamble as I would not want to visit a gum clinic and worrry that I could have caught hiv which may not show for years.
what are your thoughts?

A never outside a relationship where we both get tested together.

Offline smiths

If a Pro$$ie offers bareback I assume she is either

A. Already infected and as such doesn't care
B. Drug addict / Alcoholic and very desperate
C. Forced
D. Mentally unstable
E. Combination of the above

As such all good reasons to avoid  :hi:

Indeed, should be a sticky for tempted punters to read, it might put at least some off BB. ;)

Offline Marmalade

Or she might just be fucking stoopid.

Smiths, I have great respect for your field reports, but now you're just being nanny. I'm not even convinced that such questions are genuine. I'm not saying it is a troll question, but it is typical PN fodder, lets hype a health scare, treat punters like muppets, and tell them what they can do.

I have been quite clear, I do not advocate bareback and do not fuck prossies bareback. But a punters health is his own business, and yours is too.

There's even a highly systemised scene in Germany involving scrutinised testing of same day playmates. I'm not saying its perfect but we could argue about that till kingdom come as well, and I am not a specialist doctor with accurate figures of transmission rates in specific WG populations.  The forum, rightly IMO, is about finding paid sex. This rash of 'let's have a sticky' for everything is patronising bloody nonsense.

Whore Of Babylon

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I don't partake in bareback and never will but everyone has a choice and if they feel it's worth the risk then you won't find me becoming high and mighty on the subject.
But would stress it's worth looking at the risks and making an informed decision

Don't care about naming prossies. The responsibility to protect your health is your own. Many WGs , I'm sure have boyfriends etc who have non-protective sex. You can protect yourself and use condoms they're very effective if used correctly.
I wouldn't get all moral mini about it.
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Many WGs , I'm sure have boyfriends etc who have non-protective sex.
I think the ones who post bareback pics on their profiles and say it is their boyfriend or regular partner and that they never do bareback are bullshitters. Why post that if it's not offered? and Why post a disclaimer? Why not just not use bareback pics?

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I'd rather pass a thousand kidney stones than bareback a Pro$$ie

Miss A Squires

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I think the ones who post bareback pics on their profiles and say it is their boyfriend or regular partner and that they never do bareback are bullshitters. Why post that if it's not offered? and Why post a disclaimer? Why not just not use bareback pics?

I think that's a very valid point. The profiles are meant to demonstrate what you offer, be that a certain outfit or sexual service. Its like showing a picture of you taking it up the arse but then saying I don't do anal - why post a picture of it then?

It's ridiculous and it's Russian Roulette like any other STD. You might be okay this time, next time you might get HIV and your life's ruined forever or you might get her pregnant and be screwed over for child support for the next 18 years.

Bluemark

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I have done bareback with 3 WGs (out of approx 100).  I came in 2 of them.  All of the WGs were clean, attractive, healthy, normal and stable; not skanks or druggies!  I got tested before and after - all tests negative.  I possibly got one pregnant, she had to take the morning after pill.

Bareback sex is definately better than sex with a condom.
All 3 of the WGs said they only allowed me to do this.  I have only asked 4 WGs for bareback sex in my life, so 75% agreed.

I wonder how many others would agree? 

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I possibly got one pregnant, she had to take the morning after pill.

 

WTF? So she could tell she was pregnant the next morning? Do us a favour we're all above the age of 14 on this forum.
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WTF? So she could tell she was pregnant the next morning? Do us a favour we're all above the age of 14 on this forum.
Agreed. Bluemark I think you are a troll, you've started pointless threads and posted pointless replies to get a reaction.

hotmint

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I have done bareback with 3 WGs (out of approx 100).  I came in 2 of them.  All of the WGs were clean, attractive, healthy, normal and stable; not skanks or druggies!  I got tested before and after - all tests negative.  I possibly got one pregnant, she had to take the morning after pill.

Bareback sex is definately better than sex with a condom.
All 3 of the WGs said they only allowed me to do this.  I have only asked 4 WGs for bareback sex in my life, so 75% agreed.

I wonder how many others would agree?

The problem is, regardless if she is attractive, not a druggie etc etc etc,  you will never know what happened earlier or yesterday, or the day before.   If she does bareback for you, she is doing it with others, what were those others doing earlier or yesterday
It just goes in a circle of possible disease and ...... never assume if you have a test directly afterwards that you are clear,   HIV can a take a while to appear on tests and so can many other nasties.
The girl might think she is clean, but she did bareback with a carrier the day before, chances you are going to catch it sooner or later.

A chat with your doc is a good idea or maybe an early booking with your local undertaker

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The problem is, regardless if she is attractive, not a druggie etc etc etc,  you will never know what happened earlier or yesterday, or the day before.   If she does bareback for you, she is doing it with others, what were those others doing earlier or yesterday
It just goes in a circle of possible disease and ...... never assume if you have a test directly afterwards that you are clear,   HIV can a take a while to appear on tests and so can many other nasties.
The girl might think she is clean, but she did bareback with a carrier the day before, chances you are going to catch it sooner or later.

A chat with your doc is a good idea or maybe an early booking with your local undertaker
Bareback is always going to be a controversial subject some like it and are willing to take the risk others aren't.

I called bluemark out as a bullshitter I doubt, any of what he say is true.

Offline Marmalade

Bareback is always going to be a controversial subject some like it and are willing to take the risk others aren't.

I called bluemark out as a bullshitter I doubt, any of what he say is true.



True or not, most posters who harp on about barebacking seem to be trolls, bullshitters or out-and-out psychos.

The commonest bareback troll is almost of the reverse of the 'concerned' troll. Instead of showing a gentle manly interest in your possibly 'dubious' habit of punting, the bareback troller likes to fill you and others with revulsion about the 'disgsting' things that 'punters' get up to (ie punters like him). As well as barebacking, forced sodomy, revenge tactics, or anything else that gets punting a bad name - all up for grabs by the troll.

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Offline joshwinkers

Christ I'd love to do bareback, I don't really enjoy penetrative sex with a condom with the majority of girls unless they're particularly tight (having a small cock probably doesn't help tho!) but I'd never do with a working girl because one (relatively) short moment of happiness could lead to HIV/Aids and then never being able to have unprotected sex with a partner again - not that I have one at the moment, but I hope I will in the future.

If I was ever diagnosed with a terminal disease (non-sexual, ie Cancer) I probably would if I'm completely honest, but it would be my final ever punt, as I wouldn't want to risk infecting anyone else. But other than that scenario (which to be honest I hope doesn't happen) it's sadly never going to take place.

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Christ I'd love to do bareback, I don't really enjoy penetrative sex with a condom with the majority of girls unless they're particularly tight (having a small cock probably doesn't help tho!) but I'd never do with a working girl because one (relatively) short moment of happiness could lead to HIV/Aids and then never being able to have unprotected sex with a partner again - not that I have one at the moment, but I hope I will in the future.

If I was ever diagnosed with a terminal disease (non-sexual, ie Cancer) I probably would if I'm completely honest, but it would be my final ever punt, as I wouldn't want to risk infecting anyone else. But other than that scenario (which to be honest I hope doesn't happen) it's sadly never going to take place.

Or you could have a relationship with a non WG.

sucky2dollar

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Don't care about naming prossies. The responsibility to protect your health is your own.

^ This.

No prossie is strapping your down and forcing you to bareback her.

Regarding all those harping on about never booking a prossie that has ticked bareback - you have no idea what goes on in any WG's personal life or how many times they have ticked, unticked, advertised or withdrawn bareback in their prossie career especially under all their various working names and aliases. If you knew you would probably give up punting altogether.

Bareback threads are started by 3 types of posters:
1. Trolls
2. Punters that want to do it and are looking for some kind of validation or excuse to do so.
3. WG's on a overzealous safe-sex awareness crusade.

Offline joshwinkers

Or you could have a relationship with a non WG.

I really really hope that happens again. But I'm a bit rubbish on the dating front, which is why I'm here, currently at least.

Whore Of Babylon

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Your choice but I wouldn't be a cunt muppet, stick a rubber on it!

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I'd only be doing it if I was dying and it was going to be the last ever time I have sex - there's no way I'd risk an STD whilst I'm still (relatively) young and hope one day to be in a relationship and not punt any more.

Offline skittish

I'd only be doing it if I was dying and it was going to be the last ever time I have sex - there's no way I'd risk an STD whilst I'm still (relatively) young and hope one day to be in a relationship and not punt any more.

If I was dying, sex with prossies, protected or otherwise would be pretty low on my bucket list.

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Your choice but I wouldn't be a cunt muppet, stick a rubber on it!
Very drole.  :D Until you PM me your AW/webpage I remain skeptical you're who you say you are  :hi:

nwguyuk

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I have read of ladies offering bareback if you have a clinical test on the same day of visiting them.
As far as I understand this is how the porn industry operates too so surely it works on some kind of level?

tda666

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I'd only be doing it if I was dying and it was going to be the last ever time I have sex - there's no way I'd risk an STD whilst I'm still (relatively) young and hope one day to be in a relationship and not punt any more.

I am sure you will be in a relationship one day for certain but as far as giving up the punting ...? Well it seems to me that after marriage then kids, after a few years you will very probably be back on it again !!!

Just for the purpose of this thread, there is absolutely no way I would ever do bareback with a WG.

Offline mh

I have read of ladies offering bareback if you have a clinical test on the same day of visiting them.
As far as I understand this is how the porn industry operates too so surely it works on some kind of level?

Load of crap. A clear STI test tells you that you were clean about 10 days ago (at the time of the test) and results take days to come through.

Only the very dimmest of the dim would propose this.

The porn industry works by requiring all participants to have regular tests and takes it on trust that they don't do bareback other than with similarly tested participants. But I have read of significant outbreaks of serious STIs up to an including AIDS in the porn industry in USA at least. It's no surprise really.

JulesVerne

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If someone has always used a condom for sex, and has been tested negative twice with a 6 month gap, surely that person can't possibly have any infection? If that person does bareback they are only risking their health, and not the health of the woman. Only one in 5 million white British heterosexual women has HIV, and most of those will be drugs addicts. Also even if you have sex with a HIV carrier you are not guaranteed to catch the disease. So bareback is not as risky as claimed. You are more likely to die in a car crash or accident! I would risk bareback, but she would have to be very special, and only after knowing someone for a couple of months.

Offline Marmalade

The discussion can go on forever. Even among experts. Different testing systems etc etc. Waste of space on a punting forum imo. Also seems to attract people who don't post on punting.