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Offline Andy-ShyGuy

Hi all,

I've been a member on here for a while now, and to be honest have been quite slack in terms of posting up reviews for all the girls I've seen.  However earlier this year things took a turn for the worse, and have continued turning "worser" since...

Back in Feb this year the Mrs started feeling unwell...after a couple of visits to the docs she eventually was given a wide ranging set of blood tests including a test for Chlamidya...which came back positive  :scare:

My background, in brief, is that I've been punting since 2002 and all bar once exception in 2004 have followed the general rule that OWO/ CIM is OK but strictly no bareback sex...there was one bareback incident prior to 2004 but strictly nothing since.  I've never had an STI prior to this year.

So, I can only conclude that the dose of the clap came from an OWO session with a prossie, as I do trust my other half and am certain that it hasn't come from anything she's been getting up to.

A bit more background, I class myself as a sex addict...based on the fact that numerous times over the years I've said to myself that enough is enough, I really need to stop seeing prossies and instead spend my time and money on something a bit more "wholesome" - but each and every time I find myself drawn back into this world, and often I feel compelled to seek out paid for sex despite knowing that nothing good will come from it.

This includes a "relapse" later on this year after the clap incident - it started with viewing online porn again, then going to the peep show in soho, then going to massage parlours for a "rub and tug", then going to soho walkups, then booking women from AW again.  This time round though I've stuck strictly to OW.  However the Mrs had another scare a month or so ago so again I had to 'fess up to my further wrong doings and we're back where we were months ago...in fact in an even worse situation as this is a further set of lies and deceit I've been spinning since the "big disclosure" earlier in the year.

My life is now fucked.  I'm sleeping on the sofa bed, I have no marriage, my relationship with my kids is deteriorating.   Prior to 2014 I thought I could have it all.  I'd developed a system to hide my activities from my wife, I was earning enough cash to cover the costs of my "hobby", and I thought I'd never catch any STI...but how wrong I was.   :dash:

Since last month I've realised I do have a problem...despite now living as effectively a divorcee, and missing the intimacy of marriage like mad, I still have urges to see prossies...sometimes to the point where I'm in an SMS conversation with them trying to arrange a time, then bottle it...if it weren't for the fact that all fincances (inc. my personal account) are being gone through with a fine tooth comb once every two weeks I reckon I'd have seen at least two women by now, if not more.

I'm not really sure where I'm going with this post, in the same way I never anticipated that this is how things would end up in the closing period of 2014, and just wanted to raise with the fellow users of this site the risks that:
1) STIs can be transmitted even if you never partake in bareback sex
2) for the married parents amongst you, your marriage and family life is surely more valuable to you than the thrill of paid for sex

There is nothing worse than to see the anguish, upset and distress I've caused my wife, and to hear some of the things she has said to me...to which I have no come back as I am all the things she says I am...

If it is OK with you all, I plan to periodically update this thread as I move through this situation and let you know how it goes.  My wife is willing to have a go at rebuilding things on the basis that I am an addict and need to go through recovery.  I'm booked in with a sexual addiction specialist counseller at the local Relate centre early December, and following the initial appointment we plan to start attending couples counselling with Relate too...

I'd also be very keen to hear from anyone else on here who either classes themself as a "sex addict" and/ or has been through a similar scenario with their wife/ partner.

To the other non-single punters out there, I wish you well, but hope you acknowledge all that you are risking... :timeout:

cylon

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This might seem a bit obvious but have you been tested for STIs and if you have did you come positive?

Tjkooker

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Well this site is hardly gona help you stay away from prossies.

This is gona sound harsh.. Considering it's you that fucked about....
My opinion. It's too late for you. Start making financial plans to get the fuck out of there. Your wife is currently ringfencing your finances. She will be looking for patterns of money unaccounted for. When you divorce she will use every bit of evidence available to fuck you.
Protect yourself and cut her out while you can. Otherwise you will find yourself in a grotty flat living hand to mouth while she sits and watches your wages building up in her account.

Offline CBPaul

Are you a sex addict or are you addicted to punting ?

Either way, if you are going to try to stop punting then surely you must distance yourself from all aspects of punting, including UKP. If you do go through counselling and give your marriage a go then hell will freeze over before your Mrs stops looking over your shoulder.

This is a good reminder for us married punters though. I am well aware of the risks I am taking but I stick to a set of self imposed rules to minimise the risks. The key is not getting over confident as that will likely lead to a fuck up. As will passing on an STI of course.   

Offline Crazydave

To pass on an STI, I first need to have sex with the missus. So I could be riddled with the clap and she'd still be clear.  :sarcastic:

Offline shagbambi

This might seem a bit obvious but have you been tested for STIs and if you have did you come positive?

Very good point.  Where you positive too?

LL

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Yes my family life is far more important to me than punting. I'm finding it very difficult to stop doing it. Before you passed an STI to your wife and were subsequently found out, I'm sure you would have come across threads like these but did you heed the advice given?  I fear that it takes a scare or an incident like the one you had to give a punter the motivation to quit.
I'm thinking that now might be a good time for me to throw in the towel as I can totally relate to your advice about the risks. Not only that but I've reached a point where most of my punts are now shit. After a lot of practice I've reached a point where I expect a lot from a session (well for me it doesn't seem like a lot but to the girls I meet apparently it is). Very few girls can deliver and I leave feeling empty and with deep regret. Yet within a few days I'm scouring adult work again for the next shit punt. Like a gambler holding out for the next big win.

Anyway. OP, I wish you all the luck in getting your relationship and your life back on track. Yes please do keep us updated if you want to but I would also echo what others have written that staying away from forums like this might actually help you.

Offline cunnyhunt


Back in Feb this year the Mrs started feeling unwell...after a couple of visits to the docs she eventually was given a wide ranging set of blood tests including a test for Chlamidya...which came back positive  :scare:

So, I can only conclude that the dose of the clap came from an OWO session with a prossie, as I do trust my other half and am certain that it hasn't come from anything she's been getting up to.


How can you be 100% sure she is not getting cock somewhere else ?

I did not read that you have been tested If you tested yourself and found you were negative what would your wife do ?

Offline akauya

This might seem a bit obvious but have you been tested for STIs and if you have did you come positive?

That's a good question and just as Cunnyhunt said you can't know for sure whether your wife wasn't sleeping around. You needed to test yourself before you start admitting to anything.


Offline shagbambi

I think the OP spilled the beans when told that his wife had Chlymidia, a disease that can lay dormant for years in both males and females.  Never mind his own results...

Offline madeinwales56

Go and get tested yourself Andy rather than take all the blame. It could be that your missus has got it from a previous partner. Mind you, you have blown the gaff by confessing all about your extra marital addiction. Even if she had been shagging the local rugby team while you were out paying whores you are, as they say, now completely fucked anyway.
There is a moral in this sad tale. Do not, under any circumstances, ever, not no way, not no how admit to anything unless whoever is accusing you has cast iron proof. And even if they have tell them it's their fault.

Offline macmate

Why do posts like this always appear when i'm gearing up for a punt  :dash:

Online webpunter

Do not, under any circumstances, ever, not no way, not no how admit to anything unless whoever is accusing you has cast iron proof. And even if they have tell them it's their fault.
Deny everything - just like Baldrick:   External Link/Members Only

cockneybstrd

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I find it very hard to believe the OP just didnt fucking deny it all. After all his wife could have had half the navy hanging out of her back doors and caught it that way. So i hope the OP goes and get himself's tested and gets a clean bill of health so he can go on the offensive in this matter.

For the record you hardly seem like a sex addict from what you have described. A sex addict will look to bang anything you would have been having affairs left right and centre if you were a sex addict as well as banging pro$$ie's

You just want to get a bit of strange which if you ask me I wouldnt be surprised if the op wife's has been get her own dose of strange elsewhere


cjkany2015

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It is a cautionary tale but we think it will never happen to us. 

I've been seeing hookers behind girlfriends backs for over 15 years now.  Im so disorganised its amazing I've never slipped up and surely just a matter of time.
 

greychap

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Hi all,

I've been a member on here for a while now, and to be honest have been quite slack in terms of posting up reviews for all the girls I've seen.  However earlier this year things took a turn for the worse, and have continued turning "worser" since...

Back in Feb this year the Mrs started feeling unwell...after a couple of visits to the docs she eventually was given a wide ranging set of blood tests including a test for Chlamidya...which came back positive  :scare:

My background, in brief, is that I've been punting since 2002 and all bar once exception in 2004 have followed the general rule that OWO/ CIM is OK but strictly no bareback sex...there was one bareback incident prior to 2004 but strictly nothing since.  I've never had an STI prior to this year.

So, I can only conclude that the dose of the clap came from an OWO session with a prossie, as I do trust my other half and am certain that it hasn't come from anything she's been getting up to.

A bit more background, I class myself as a sex addict...based on the fact that numerous times over the years I've said to myself that enough is enough, I really need to stop seeing prossies and instead spend my time and money on something a bit more "wholesome" - but each and every time I find myself drawn back into this world, and often I feel compelled to seek out paid for sex despite knowing that nothing good will come from it.

This includes a "relapse" later on this year after the clap incident - it started with viewing online porn again, then going to the peep show in soho, then going to massage parlours for a "rub and tug", then going to soho walkups, then booking women from AW again.  This time round though I've stuck strictly to OW.  However the Mrs had another scare a month or so ago so again I had to 'fess up to my further wrong doings and we're back where we were months ago...in fact in an even worse situation as this is a further set of lies and deceit I've been spinning since the "big disclosure" earlier in the year.

My life is now fucked.  I'm sleeping on the sofa bed, I have no marriage, my relationship with my kids is deteriorating.   Prior to 2014 I thought I could have it all.  I'd developed a system to hide my activities from my wife, I was earning enough cash to cover the costs of my "hobby", and I thought I'd never catch any STI...but how wrong I was.   :dash:

Since last month I've realised I do have a problem...despite now living as effectively a divorcee, and missing the intimacy of marriage like mad, I still have urges to see prossies...sometimes to the point where I'm in an SMS conversation with them trying to arrange a time, then bottle it...if it weren't for the fact that all fincances (inc. my personal account) are being gone through with a fine tooth comb once every two weeks I reckon I'd have seen at least two women by now, if not more.

I'm not really sure where I'm going with this post, in the same way I never anticipated that this is how things would end up in the closing period of 2014, and just wanted to raise with the fellow users of this site the risks that:
1) STIs can be transmitted even if you never partake in bareback sex
2) for the married parents amongst you, your marriage and family life is surely more valuable to you than the thrill of paid for sex

There is nothing worse than to see the anguish, upset and distress I've caused my wife, and to hear some of the things she has said to me...to which I have no come back as I am all the things she says I am...

If it is OK with you all, I plan to periodically update this thread as I move through this situation and let you know how it goes.  My wife is willing to have a go at rebuilding things on the basis that I am an addict and need to go through recovery.  I'm booked in with a sexual addiction specialist counseller at the local Relate centre early December, and following the initial appointment we plan to start attending couples counselling with Relate too...

I'd also be very keen to hear from anyone else on here who either classes themself as a "sex addict" and/ or has been through a similar scenario with their wife/ partner.

To the other non-single punters out there, I wish you well, but hope you acknowledge all that you are risking... :timeout:

You have to ask yourself was it worth it???

I have been separated a while now but when things were ok I never did this, would feel too guilty to.
But lets be honest most of us men are selfish when it comes to our urges and we probably should not be married or with a long term partner, but our greed takes over.


Dave79

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Wether he got it from a prossie or he got it from the other half their would be no proof anyway as he would surely have chlamydia regardless so therefore no one would know?

Toshiba

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I mentioned a while ago this site doesnt help if you want to quit.it can be addictive being on here, punting so you can tell of your conquest to strangers on the net

I find it strange you cant deactivate/close your account on here?? That would help me give up im nearly sure of it, cos i stop punting when i dont cone on here

Ive a lot to lose and ive had 2 scare both being all clear, its a fucking nightmare believe me

Offline Andy-ShyGuy

Hi all,

Interesting to read through all the responses and thank you for the general good will and support that has been expressed towards me.

And no, that isn't me in the Sun article! :)

No real change in my domestic situation, but I am noticing my previously uncontrollable urge to visit prossies is starting to fade, but it still crosses my mind several times a day.

Some have also asked whether I can be sure it was me that brought an STI - obviously I can never be 100% sure however I have lived with my wife for 10years and ance never suspected her of any extra-marital activity, however she has raised her suspicions over my fidelity numerous times - female intuition is not to be underestimated.

I was tested back in March this year and the results came back negative across the board...however after the February positive clap result my wife came home with a dose of antibiotics for both of us so who knows?

Thanks again for all the responses

cockneybstrd

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I mentioned a while ago this site doesnt help if you want to quit.it can be addictive being on here, punting so you can tell of your conquest to strangers on the net

I find it strange you cant deactivate/close your account on here?? That would help me give up im nearly sure of it, cos i stop punting when i dont cone on here


Its a piece of piss hollycrosser to close your account just log out and dont come back. Its pretty simple. I dont mean it horribly but if you dont want to punt dont punt. Dont blame this website its a bit pathetic. As if Admin did allow people to deactive close accounts etc. They would be reactivating them every couple of days.

Its like giving up smoking you either want to give up or you dont (from an ex smoker) Its willpower.

 

Offline akauya


I find it strange you cant deactivate/close your account on here?? That would help me give up im nearly sure of it, cos i stop punting when i dont cone on here


I find it strange you've been a member here for over a year and you don't know how to deactivate your account. Just swear at the mods and you will be deactivated in no time.

Hope that helps.

Toshiba

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Its a piece of piss hollycrosser to close your account just log out and dont come back. Its pretty simple. I dont mean it horribly but if you dont want to punt dont punt. Dont blame this website its a bit pathetic. As if Admin did allow people to deactive close accounts etc. They would be reactivating them every couple of days.

Its like giving up smoking you either want to give up or you dont (from an ex smoker) Its willpower.

You miss my point CB its this sites addictive nature that makes me not log off and not return,but yes it is will power, something im shite at.of course its not this sites fault, its mine, i was mearly pointing out it would help to just deactivate account for those seeking to give up.

cockneybstrd

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You miss my point CB its this sites addictive nature that makes me not log off and not return,but yes it is will power, something im shite at.of course its not this sites fault, its mine, i was mearly pointing out it would help to just deactivate account for those seeking to give up.

No I get that. I just think you would have people closing and re opening their accounts on almost daily basis !

Can you not block the site so you cant get back on. Or have a rubber band around your wrist and twang it everytime you try and log on or something

Offline CBPaul

I don't understand the deactivating account thing.

If you have an addiction to prostitutes then this is only part of the whole issue.  Starting with a little by coming on here I get, harmless isn't it because you're not actually booking, meeting and shagging a prossie. I also get that it may well set you off on the road to a punt.

You don't have to log on here to read a load of posts so deactivating / deleting your account is useless. If you do want to post you will, even if that means starting a new account. With determination I mashed up all of my fags, lighters etc and binned them first time I tried to pack up smoking, just over 24 hours later I was prowling the streets at 2 am like some pathetic strung out rattling junkie searching for an all night garage to buy 10 fags and a box of matches because just having one wouldn't hurt. In other words if you want it, you'll go and get it no matter how hard you make it for yourself.

If you want to stop it is going to take will power and another outlet.

Offline shagbambi

Hi all,

Interesting to read through all the responses and thank you for the general good will and support that has been expressed towards me.

And no, that isn't me in the Sun article! :)

No real change in my domestic situation, but I am noticing my previously uncontrollable urge to visit prossies is starting to fade, but it still crosses my mind several times a day.

Some have also asked whether I can be sure it was me that brought an STI - obviously I can never be 100% sure however I have lived with my wife for 10years and ance never suspected her of any extra-marital activity, however she has raised her suspicions over my fidelity numerous times - female intuition is not to be underestimated.

I was tested back in March this year and the results came back negative across the board...however after the February positive clap result my wife came home with a dose of antibiotics for both of us so who knows?

Thanks again for all the responses

Andy I am sorry to say but your wife is trying to fix you up.  By giving you antibiotics before getting tested you will never know if you were positive.   If she believed you were 100% at fault she would have had you tested so that there would have been conclusive legal proof.  I am really sorry to have to say this as you trust her.



Offline Andy-ShyGuy

Hi Shagbambi....as others have said even if I did get tested and turned out to be also infected, it doesn't go any way towards proving who brought the STI into the relationship...only that we both have it.  And to be brutally honest to myself, even if my OH was sleeping around the rules of probability dictate it is more likely to be me that caught something...

Things have been bumbling along at home, kind of through peaks and troughs...had a massive row a few days ago and the following day I was asked/ told to move out...I stood firm (if nothing else, it doesn't make financial sense at the moment as I don't have family/ friends close enough that I could stay with for free), especially in the run up to Christmas.  Things have settled back down since then, plus tomorrow evening I have my first appointment with a Relate counsellor who specialises in sex addiction counselling...we're hoping to get a couple of sessions in as a couple with her before Christmas - tomorrow is me on my own so I can talk freely about all the stuff I've been getting up to and get a steer on what is the best course of action to save things.

This is truly an awful experience.  My OH is fine-tooth-combing the accounts and it isn't easy when you are often told how awful you've made the woman you love feel on a regular basis...

Trelf

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Andy,
You are right that if you did test positive it wouldnt prove who gave it to who but if you were clear would that not prove she got it elsewhere?

Offline Andy-ShyGuy

Andy,
You are right that if you did test positive it wouldnt prove who gave it to who but if you were clear would that not prove she got it elsewhere?

Very true - hadn't thought of that as I'm totally convinced it was me...too late to tell now I guess but worth keeping in mind if I ever end up in the same situation again...

Offline Fabaceous

I'm married, not had sex with my wife for 18m but have been punting regularly. In-between AW bookings, I noticed a red rash on my bell end, so cancelled my next booking and went off to the clinic.
Saw a lovely female doctor who went through an extensive questionnaire - which included 'how many sexual partners, oral w/o, anal, and on'. She had a look and said that it was probably a bit of thrush and gave me cream, tested my blood and suggested a course of Hepatitis B jabs as I had 'a risky pastime'. Follow up appointments were made and initial & subsequent tests were negative, but I now will go every 3 months for a regular check up.

Offline shagbambi

Hi Andy. Just a post of support. I realize you must be living some version of hell at the moment. I respect the fact that you are trying to fix things and owning up to your actions. You have chosen a hard road. I hope for your sake you find the solution you wish for.

Online webpunter

Im so disorganised its amazing I've never slipped up and surely just a matter of time.
This in itself is a good defence mechanism.  Unlikely that the OH will work out what you are doing if you can't

Offline Andy-ShyGuy

Thanks for the support chaps...this is proving to be really hard...I've come close to seeing someone on a few occasions (to the point of having exchanged txts with WG's to the point of agree date/ time/ venue...then I've cancelled)...the ONLY reason I'm not going through with it at the moment is I have no way to hide the cash withdrawl (and subsequent empty wallet)...I feel like the longer this goes on, the less likely I am to have the willpower not to go through with the booking...

I want to stop...I want to stop all of it, but I keep finding myself on AW with the intention of w***ing off to a few profile pics of ex/ previously potential punts, but end up actively searching for a booking...

I did meet with a counseller from Relate last week - she said that I should be happy that the bank account checking is preventing me from spending any money on this, plus a load of other useful tips/ thoughts...but I never realised how deep into this I was until I tried to actually stop...

Offline MrMatrix

Hey Andy if you are still out there. Just came across this thread as I joined UKP after this. I hope things worked out for you. You've got to respect the OP for putting this into the forum. Does any one know what was the outcome after the relate counselling.

Offline Nagilum

I just saw this thread now OP. 

I was married for 10 years and often thought about punting, but never did.  Like you I did not want to cause anguish for my wife.  4 months ago I found out about her Affair and this rocked me to the core. Suffice to say I have not forgiven her an separated.

I would never punt if I were married, simply because the system is designed to screw you over an favour women way too much.  Forget the financial aspect, I am talking more about children and the grief you will cause them.  You have to ask yourself why you punt and ask yourself what is your partner doing to help you sexually and fulfil your needs.  If she is not satisfying you, then you have an issue and its no wonder you punt.  You punting is just as much about her as it is about you.

I wish you the best.



 

Offline jawill

How long have you been married?

I'm also confused...... You tested negative and her positive. What's to say she didn't sleep with someone? Were you getting regular STD checks? Ie. Every three months? Did you have any symptoms at all? Usually in a man we tend to get some whereas women tends to get very few.

Also, catching chylmydia from a blow job, while possible, is pretty difficult as it doesn't live that well in the throat. Gonnorheah on there other hand does and is regularly transmitted by oral sex.

Also, I find it strange for a Dr to prescribe you antibiotics without getting you tested first, else how are they to know if the antibiotics worked, I.e. test of cure.

If it's been more than two weeks after your last tablet, get tested again.

Something just doesn't add up here!! Ps. Reason why I asked how long you been together is than chylmydia can hide for many years in a person with no symptoms.

Offline HappyLarry

Wow...the OP really laid his heart bare here. It's got me thinking and I have to admit I'm addicted too. How do I stop before I ruin everything I have built with the Missus?

This is probably the wrong place to ask this question. Has anyone struggled with this?

Odd Job

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Take her on Jeremy Kyle and get her to do a lie detector.

jcdmj12

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Wow...the OP really laid his heart bare here. It's got me thinking and I have to admit I'm addicted too. How do I stop before I ruin everything I have built with the Missus?

This is probably the wrong place to ask this question. Has anyone struggled with this?

Yeah, easy to fix. Stop shagging your missus.     :sarcastic:

jcdmj12

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Something just doesn't add up here!! Ps. Reason why I asked how long you been together is than chylmydia can hide for many years in a person with no symptoms.

Yep - I can testify to this.  Either that or my OH had been shagging around without telling me, but that's unlikely for various reasons.  Good luck to her if she had.  I'm not really in a position to make a fuss about it.  :D

jcdmj12

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Hey Andy if you are still out there. Just came across this thread as I joined UKP after this. I hope things worked out for you. You've got to respect the OP for putting this into the forum. Does any one know what was the outcome after the relate counselling.

I dunno but he's still punting

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=58884.0

5th Musketeer

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I dunno but he's still punting

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=58884.0
With a £20 note!  And he  had to ask what he could get for that!  Doesn't sound like he's into it as much as before.

Offline HappyLarry

This is a hard habit to beat. Went to see a wg today and mid puntv got so annoyed at myself for giving in I had her stop an amazing bj so I could save it for home.

How's that for edging? I just pair 80 quid to NOT cum.

I think my head needs examining.

In the meantime I have a date booked with my converted civvie regular on Thursday. I have no idea how to say no to that. Been planning it since before Xmas and she's excited about it too (or probably with the cash she gets).

Yeah...this thread has really fucked with my head. But no one to blame but myself.

I think I have a problem.

Offline MrMatrix

Wow...the OP really laid his heart bare here. It's got me thinking and I have to admit I'm addicted too. How do I stop before I ruin everything I have built with the Missus?

This is probably the wrong place to ask this question. Has anyone struggled with this?
Its the right place to ask this question HL. :thumbsup:
I think if you are married and you are getting it say once a month (which is 12 times more frequently PA than I was) or more frequently you are probably taking an unnecessary risk. As married guys we all have a lot to lose, especially if you have children at home. Those of us who are holed up in a dry well have only the OH to blame for forcing celibacy into the marriage. I've got a couple of friends who have good sex lives like weekly and they are forever thinking of playing away. IMO that would be reckless. If you are mixing between WG and OH there is a risk of bringing something home along the lines that the OP has owned upto. Although subsequent comments on this thread indicate he may have been a bit premature in fessing up. :scare:
This hobby is addictive and HappyLarry, if you think your addicted which we probably all are, you need to close AW and spend more quality time with the OH. Make more of a fuss of her. If you are in a dry well LH you could both go to counselling. Its got to be worth a shot on assuming she isn't coming across with the goods at the moment. Best of luck..

Offline HappyLarry

Thanks mate, much appreciated.

Offline GreyDave

 :hi: I find it difficult to belive any Dr or Clinic would give antibiotic to be used to some one they have not met and discussed or tested Its dangerous as many are allergic to asprin  penicilli etc not really sure I think this is a bit iffy

Offline nimrodluvsit

:hi: I find it difficult to belive any Dr or Clinic would give antibiotic to be used to some one they have not met and discussed or tested Its dangerous as many are allergic to asprin  penicilli etc not really sure I think this is a bit iffy

+1.  I cannot believe any doctor would prescribe for someone they hadn't examined, much less seen, especially as we are talking antibiotics here.  It's difficult enough to get them prescribed these days even after examination.

Ben4454

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Another example to all loyal married men out there. Once you punt you will always be a punter. Proceed with caution.

jcdmj12

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Another example to all loyal married men out there. Once you punt you will always be a punter. Proceed with caution.

What about if you were punting for years before you got married?   :D

Loyalty is overrated.  The only times I regret were opportunities where I could have strayed but didn't. It turned out my partner at the time was cheating on me anyway.   :angry:
« Last Edit: January 06, 2016, 06:36:12 pm by jcdmj12 »

Offline lostandfound

+1.  I cannot believe any doctor would prescribe for someone they hadn't examined, much less seen, especially as we are talking antibiotics here.  It's difficult enough to get them prescribed these days even after examination.

But you can get them from an online pharmacy - as the Chief Medical Officer recently pointed out in a national press release.